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<blockquote data-quote="audio_phill" data-source="post: 8189609" data-attributes="member: 605512">The HDC4 is a different animal and shouldnt be used as reference to the quality of the these new lines.The pioneer is probably the most durable of the listed drivers, but not the best sounding or the widest frequency range or flattest response. I&#039;m typically a fan of pioneer, I have ran many pioneer systems in the past, and my current head unit and comp&#039;s are pio&#039;s, but theri subs leave alot to be desired, but I do rank the pio 2nd choice folowed by the polk then rf.I still stand by the bravos I listed earlier as the best driver in the price range period. Great sq and high sensitivity and perfect q and no le, should play any freq needed and roll off so smoothely it blends seamlessly with the front stage. Should be airy and transparent while managing excellent transience and flat response. Could be easily tuned for the sql side of things as well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="audio_phill, post: 8189609, member: 605512"] The HDC4 is a different animal and shouldnt be used as reference to the quality of the these new lines. The pioneer is probably the most durable of the listed drivers, but not the best sounding or the widest frequency range or flattest response. I'm typically a fan of pioneer, I have ran many pioneer systems in the past, and my current head unit and comp's are pio's, but theri subs leave alot to be desired, but I do rank the pio 2nd choice folowed by the polk then rf. I still stand by the bravos I listed earlier as the best driver in the price range period. Great sq and high sensitivity and perfect q and no le, should play any freq needed and roll off so smoothely it blends seamlessly with the front stage. Should be airy and transparent while managing excellent transience and flat response. Could be easily tuned for the sql side of things as well. [/QUOTE]

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