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<blockquote data-quote="phenryiv1" data-source="post: 2838831" data-attributes="member: 572008">You need to do some cardio before you think about juicing.&nbsp; If you think that yu have hit a plateau after your first year of lifting, then you know nothing about the sport. If you think that juicing gains will last when you are so far overweight, then you are hopeless.I have been around guys who have juiced for vanity, for shows, and for power.&nbsp; I have never done it, but more power to those who have.&nbsp; I&#039;l be content to be able to bench, squat, and dealdlift more than twice my bodyweight.&nbsp; I&#039;ll be happy with my ability to still wrestle competetively at age 30, to lift daily, and to still train for a triathalon while remaining strong enough to use my body weight for my WARM UP sets on all 3 power moves.I love it how someone who has to cheat just to bench-press half of their weight, and who knows so little about the human body and its response to strength training that he avoids legs to avoid them looking bulky, yet you want to fight with everything that is said in here.Platestacker, I think if I were you I&#039;d be really worried about this guy- he clearly knows about all aspects of strength training.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="phenryiv1, post: 2838831, member: 572008"] You need to do some cardio before you think about juicing. If you think that yu have hit a plateau after your first year of lifting, then you know nothing about the sport. If you think that juicing gains will last when you are so far overweight, then you are hopeless. I have been around guys who have juiced for vanity, for shows, and for power. I have never done it, but more power to those who have. I'l be content to be able to bench, squat, and dealdlift more than twice my bodyweight. I'll be happy with my ability to still wrestle competetively at age 30, to lift daily, and to still train for a triathalon while remaining strong enough to use my body weight for my WARM UP sets on all 3 power moves. I love it how someone who has to cheat just to bench-press half of their weight, and who knows so little about the human body and its response to strength training that he avoids legs to avoid them looking bulky, yet you want to fight with everything that is said in here. Platestacker, I think if I were you I'd be really worried about this guy- he clearly knows about all aspects of strength training. [/QUOTE]

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