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<blockquote data-quote="Captain_Ahab" data-source="post: 2835775" data-attributes="member: 562719">I can&#039;t believe I have read through this entire thread.. I went from being a fat *** to a thoroughly built guy lifting weights off and on, not too seriously, for about 3 years.. Mainly in the summer then quit come hunting season..Have been lifting serious the past year now with only 1 break (1 month when I had mono), and I am amazed at my physique.. It ain&#039;t nothing special, but its a huge improvement..I drink 2 ON protein shakes a day and take 2 teaspoons of creatine gluconate..Why do people like fatryan always want to easy way out??Its ridiculous.. he thinks he knows everything there is to know about lifting..well if he did, why isn&#039;t he putting up the numbers he should and in better shape?? I literally laugh my *** off reading this thread... There is no need for all these gimmicks muscle magazines try to sell you... Arguing with platestacker, who takes BB more seriously than anyone here, is retarded..You just started fatryan..I have recapped your post and you almost state the same thing over and over..Your bench went up 50 pounds in a month with some supplements..All that shows to me is that your a noob when it comes to weight lifting..&nbsp; I went up 30 pounds in a month when I first started not taking shit.. Now it takes me 6-9 months to go up 30 pounds..Would all these bullcrap supplements help me? Possibly... But why take the easy way out??I don&#039;t know where I am going..But this thread just honestly pisses me off.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Captain_Ahab, post: 2835775, member: 562719"] I can't believe I have read through this entire thread.. I went from being a fat *** to a thoroughly built guy lifting weights off and on, not too seriously, for about 3 years.. Mainly in the summer then quit come hunting season..Have been lifting serious the past year now with only 1 break (1 month when I had mono), and I am amazed at my physique.. It ain't nothing special, but its a huge improvement.. I drink 2 ON protein shakes a day and take 2 teaspoons of creatine gluconate.. Why do people like fatryan always want to easy way out??Its ridiculous.. he thinks he knows everything there is to know about lifting..well if he did, why isn't he putting up the numbers he should and in better shape?? I literally laugh my *** off reading this thread... There is no need for all these gimmicks muscle magazines try to sell you... Arguing with platestacker, who takes BB more seriously than anyone here, is retarded..You just started fatryan..I have recapped your post and you almost state the same thing over and over..Your bench went up 50 pounds in a month with some supplements..All that shows to me is that your a noob when it comes to weight lifting.. I went up 30 pounds in a month when I first started not taking shit.. Now it takes me 6-9 months to go up 30 pounds..Would all these bullcrap supplements help me? Possibly... But why take the easy way out?? I don't know where I am going..But this thread just honestly pisses me off. [/QUOTE]

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