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<blockquote data-quote="Pl8er" data-source="post: 2834595" data-attributes="member: 540634">I&#039;m not going to jump on sides here and I am not going to read 12 pages, but you COULD hit an extra 50 lbs.&nbsp; I&#039;ve taken a range of things and really I won&#039;t lie some days I go in and can&#039;t hit anything within my range, go home, eat perfectly, sleep the right amount and go in and throw some HUGE numbers.&nbsp; If your working out correctly, its in you, and I think that is what platestacker is saying, if you eat right, sleep and then go in having taken super &quot;x&quot; drug, you have all you need to put up an extra 50 lbs for a max.&nbsp; One of the biggest things I tell guys/girls when we are training is don&#039;t count the numbers, numbers will psych you out.&nbsp; You do the weight you get to know the amount.&nbsp; You don&#039;t hit it, we drop till you do.&nbsp; Guy that I&#039;m working with right now added 25 lbs just by not knowing the amount.&nbsp; I tell him 225, and he can&#039;t do it, throw it on without his knowing, and he is ready to go.&nbsp; Mental games.I&#039;ve never taken that stuff, so it could be helping as well.&nbsp; Do a blind test.&nbsp; Take your drugs out....find something that looks exactly the same but does something else and put them both in identical bottles.&nbsp; Take one bottle till its gone then the next *shrug* could work.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pl8er, post: 2834595, member: 540634"] I'm not going to jump on sides here and I am not going to read 12 pages, but you COULD hit an extra 50 lbs. I've taken a range of things and really I won't lie some days I go in and can't hit anything within my range, go home, eat perfectly, sleep the right amount and go in and throw some HUGE numbers. If your working out correctly, its in you, and I think that is what platestacker is saying, if you eat right, sleep and then go in having taken super "x" drug, you have all you need to put up an extra 50 lbs for a max. One of the biggest things I tell guys/girls when we are training is don't count the numbers, numbers will psych you out. You do the weight you get to know the amount. You don't hit it, we drop till you do. Guy that I'm working with right now added 25 lbs just by not knowing the amount. I tell him 225, and he can't do it, throw it on without his knowing, and he is ready to go. Mental games. I've never taken that stuff, so it could be helping as well. Do a blind test. Take your drugs out....find something that looks exactly the same but does something else and put them both in identical bottles. Take one bottle till its gone then the next *shrug* could work. [/QUOTE]

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