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<blockquote data-quote="MmatsDude" data-source="post: 5474231" data-attributes="member: 586264">Do you mean &quot;believe in the bible&quot; to mean believe every single word to be exactly and perfectly right. Well I think that is rare of Christians, at least I&#039;ve never talked to one that has, even fundamentalists I know that claim they believe in the inerrancy of the bible when puched and shown mistakes admit that it does contain some mistakes.But I’m kind of thrown by your question. If you mean believe every word? I doubt that very many do, if you mean believe that it is somewhat accurate and true to some extent, then it seems that you do yourself? I recognize that it has just about as much true in it as the average work of fiction. I watch plenty (and I mean tons and tons) of anime, which often takes place in Japan, references Japanese history, language, geography and culture, which are all true, and really do exist. Doesn&#039;t mean all of it is true. Peter pan starts off in England, a real place! Doesn&#039;t mean that Never land exists.Also hardly any theists that I talk to claim that you can reach belief in god and christianity through formal logic or rational inquiry. They clearly invoke faith for a reason, belief must preclude all questions and inquiries, or you&#039;re doing it wrong!The whole mention of faith shouts this loudly. If you already know, or have a dam&#039;n good reason to believe something then faith is not required. The reason faith is pushed as so fundamentally important and a virtuous quality to possess is because there does not exist sufficient reason to believe any of their nonsense unless you approach everything they say with the assumption that it&#039;s true.Anywho, I don&#039;t know why you&#039;re askin similar questions over and over...and to be sincere with you, whatever questioning etc...is is just as illogical, because it appears to me that your own position isn&#039;t on any higher ground. Perhaps even lower than most. From what I&#039;ve seen of you so far I&#039;d say I know a number of theists on here that are more logical. (Not like I&#039;m the objective judge of who is logical and who isn&#039;t or anything, I&#039;m just saying how it currently appears to me.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MmatsDude, post: 5474231, member: 586264"] Do you mean "believe in the bible" to mean believe every single word to be exactly and perfectly right. Well I think that is rare of Christians, at least I've never talked to one that has, even fundamentalists I know that claim they believe in the inerrancy of the bible when puched and shown mistakes admit that it does contain some mistakes. But I’m kind of thrown by your question. If you mean believe every word? I doubt that very many do, if you mean believe that it is somewhat accurate and true to some extent, then it seems that you do yourself? I recognize that it has just about as much true in it as the average work of fiction. I watch plenty (and I mean tons and tons) of anime, which often takes place in Japan, references Japanese history, language, geography and culture, which are all true, and really do exist. Doesn't mean all of it is true. Peter pan starts off in England, a real place! Doesn't mean that Never land exists. Also hardly any theists that I talk to claim that you can reach belief in god and christianity through formal logic or rational inquiry. They clearly invoke faith for a reason, belief must preclude all questions and inquiries, or you're doing it wrong! The whole mention of faith shouts this loudly. If you already know, or have a dam'n good reason to believe something then faith is not required. The reason faith is pushed as so fundamentally important and a virtuous quality to possess is because there does not exist sufficient reason to believe any of their nonsense unless you approach everything they say with the assumption that it's true. [B]Anywho, I don't know why you're askin similar questions over and over...and to be sincere with you, whatever questioning etc...is is just as illogical, because it appears to me that your own position isn't on any higher ground. Perhaps even lower than most. From what I've seen of you so far I'd say I know a number of theists on here that are more logical. (Not like I'm the objective judge of who is logical and who isn't or anything, I'm just saying how it currently appears to me.)[/B] [/QUOTE]

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