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<blockquote data-quote="wew lad" data-source="post: 8717682" data-attributes="member: 665412">Took me a minute to find the spec sheet, but it still blows my mind that they&#039;re rated for 10c charge. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s going to reduce life span but if you can get 5k, let alone 10k cycles out of them the LTO chemistry really is amazing except for their energy density (power density is also a little low but it&#039;s in line with LiIon which can only be charged at 1-1.5c).You&#039;re spot on with the lack of a need for 50c, I&#039;d rather have a more stable chemistry that can handle a large amount of alt output. 50c would equate to 2ka on one bank lol. Instead, like you&#039;ve said to me in the past, just get a larger bank and size it with your alternator idle output in mind. One 80ah bank is 800a of discharge which is inline with 90% of the builds out there running a 12k (unless they&#039;re wired in the dirt and playing tones with low alt output).I&#039;ve been skeptical of every single lithium battery people boast about, but the LTO&#039;s are starting to grow on me. I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve seen any failures due to the cells themselves yet and we have people who know literally nothing about lithium chemistries who beat them to death.The biggest thing stopping me from using LTO cells is due to the need for a battery delete. I could probably get away with a relay but the AGM wouldn&#039;t be doing anything. As more novel casing solutions come out and drop in price it&#039;ll make more sense.Curious to see how your big *** bank will react once you get closer to 15k-20k of draw</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wew lad, post: 8717682, member: 665412"] Took me a minute to find the spec sheet, but it still blows my mind that they're rated for 10c charge. I'm sure it's going to reduce life span but if you can get 5k, let alone 10k cycles out of them the LTO chemistry really is amazing except for their energy density (power density is also a little low but it's in line with LiIon which can only be charged at 1-1.5c). You're spot on with the lack of a need for 50c, I'd rather have a more stable chemistry that can handle a large amount of alt output. 50c would equate to 2ka on one bank lol. Instead, like you've said to me in the past, just get a larger bank and size it with your alternator idle output in mind. One 80ah bank is 800a of discharge which is inline with 90% of the builds out there running a 12k (unless they're wired in the dirt and playing tones with low alt output). I've been skeptical of every single lithium battery people boast about, but the LTO's are starting to grow on me. I don't think I've seen any failures due to the cells themselves yet and we have people who know literally nothing about lithium chemistries who beat them to death. The biggest thing stopping me from using LTO cells is due to the need for a battery delete. I could probably get away with a relay but the AGM wouldn't be doing anything. As more novel casing solutions come out and drop in price it'll make more sense. Curious to see how your big *** bank will react once you get closer to 15k-20k of draw [/QUOTE]

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