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<blockquote data-quote="MiniVanMan" data-source="post: 3104829" data-attributes="member: 573252"><p>The problem with dash locations is the windshield itself. Reflections can be very nasty, and really mess with your stage. That being said, some eq here and there can tame them, but won't fix the staging. Remember that the majority of music comes from the frequencies that your midrange will produce, so where they are installed is critical.</p><p></p><p>What is it specifically that you're not liking about your current setup. I have a feeling you're going to say upper midrange response.</p><p></p><p>I would never suggest doing a 3-way with the midrange in any other position than on-axis with you, or at least in a location with little to no reflective surfaces. Glass just happens to be highly reflective. I'm not saying it can't work, or even won't work. It's more work than it's worth, and you'll never get full capability out a driver when you have to add a ton of processing to get it to sound right.</p><p></p><p>However, if you must experiment, there are some relatively cheap options that you could try. The Vifa/Peerless TG9 is wonderful little midrange, that costs very little.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=143&amp;products_id=1616" target="_blank">http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=143&amp;products_id=1616</a></p><p></p><p>It has a very wide range and can almost be used without a tweeter (in your dash that wouldn't happen). It would definitely give you an idea of how a speaker is going to respond in your dash. It's a very laid back, but tonally accurate and smooth driver.</p><p></p><p>I would start there, before going all out. If you like the outcome then you have your midrange driver. It will work well with the TN-45 Focal tweeter as you can cross it over very high at that point, and take some of the brutal harshness the TN-45 has a tendency to display. It's also very capable in the lower midrange, making the RF 3Sixty.2 an option by being able to cross below 250 hz (where it's argued you can't tell between a mono and stereo signal anymore. However, you would have no time alignment capability on the midbasses.</p><p></p><p>Just some thoughts. This is not something you want to spend a ton of money on right off until you have a bit more knowledge how everything will sound in your car.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MiniVanMan, post: 3104829, member: 573252"] The problem with dash locations is the windshield itself. Reflections can be very nasty, and really mess with your stage. That being said, some eq here and there can tame them, but won't fix the staging. Remember that the majority of music comes from the frequencies that your midrange will produce, so where they are installed is critical. What is it specifically that you're not liking about your current setup. I have a feeling you're going to say upper midrange response. I would never suggest doing a 3-way with the midrange in any other position than on-axis with you, or at least in a location with little to no reflective surfaces. Glass just happens to be highly reflective. I'm not saying it can't work, or even won't work. It's more work than it's worth, and you'll never get full capability out a driver when you have to add a ton of processing to get it to sound right. However, if you must experiment, there are some relatively cheap options that you could try. The Vifa/Peerless TG9 is wonderful little midrange, that costs very little. [URL="http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=143&products_id=1616"]http://www.madisound.com/catalog/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=143&products_id=1616[/URL] It has a very wide range and can almost be used without a tweeter (in your dash that wouldn't happen). It would definitely give you an idea of how a speaker is going to respond in your dash. It's a very laid back, but tonally accurate and smooth driver. I would start there, before going all out. If you like the outcome then you have your midrange driver. It will work well with the TN-45 Focal tweeter as you can cross it over very high at that point, and take some of the brutal harshness the TN-45 has a tendency to display. It's also very capable in the lower midrange, making the RF 3Sixty.2 an option by being able to cross below 250 hz (where it's argued you can't tell between a mono and stereo signal anymore. However, you would have no time alignment capability on the midbasses. Just some thoughts. This is not something you want to spend a ton of money on right off until you have a bit more knowledge how everything will sound in your car. [/QUOTE]
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