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<blockquote data-quote="hispls" data-source="post: 8534581" data-attributes="member: 614752">He means people who aren&#039;t on the spectrum.&nbsp;&nbsp; You absolutely 100% guaranteed do not have and cannot afford the processing power or testing equipment to even attempt to run a hodgepodge of speakers and try to make things sound good.&nbsp;&nbsp; Even with a precision RTA and 1000$+ worth of outbord processing (or 1500$+ MSRP head unit) you&#039;ll be hard pressed even making 3 way fronts + sub sound good in a car.The people you see with a door full of mids are just trying to be loud for the sake of being loud.&nbsp; The vast majority of those sound like garbage.&nbsp;&nbsp; People who do successfully implement more fronts have a lot of money tied up in processing to balance things out properly.To the best of my knowledge NOBODY who is seriously interested in sounding good (or getting loud) uses multiple sizes/types of subs.&nbsp; 80hz and down there is simply no need.&nbsp; If you wanted to get really fancy shoot for a 3 way with sub doing 60hz and down, 8&quot; in the doors doing 60-300hz or so, then some 5-6&quot; mids doing 300-2Khz&nbsp; and tweets from 2Khz up in the doors.Better option as someone else has mentioned is horns under the dash and 8&quot; midwoofer in the doors.&nbsp; Image Dynamics makes the gold standard 2 way horn kit for the car.&nbsp; If you were good with fiberglass you could probably buy a cheaper compression driver and mold your own horns, and mate with a reasonably priced 8&quot; woofer.&nbsp; This is a great arrangement but simply won&#039;t fit in most cars.Keep it SIMPLE.&nbsp;&nbsp; Some good quality 6.5&quot; coaxials in good locations would sound far better than just throwing everything you&#039;ve got at it, and the W0 12 can play every sub frequency you need.IF you&#039;re as handy as you say and wood or space isn&#039;t an issue, have someone design a folded horn or t-line for that W0 and see what good box design can really do.&nbsp; *Edit* look into Dayton subs in place of W0.&nbsp; They&#039;re good bang for buck and partsexpress often has great sales on them.Soundstream is garbage.&nbsp; In fact, I&#039;d avoid outboard EQ entirely, that played out in the 80&#039;s.&nbsp; For the past 10 years any EQ worth using is digital and entry level for those is over 500$.&nbsp;&nbsp; Pioneer DEH 80prs can be had cheap these days and the built in crossover, time alignment, and EQ functionality is high quality and a fantastic value.&nbsp; You will not regret buying that head unit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hispls, post: 8534581, member: 614752"] He means people who aren't on the spectrum. You absolutely 100% guaranteed do not have and cannot afford the processing power or testing equipment to even attempt to run a hodgepodge of speakers and try to make things sound good. Even with a precision RTA and 1000$+ worth of outbord processing (or 1500$+ MSRP head unit) you'll be hard pressed even making 3 way fronts + sub sound good in a car. The people you see with a door full of mids are just trying to be loud for the sake of being loud. The vast majority of those sound like garbage. People who do successfully implement more fronts have a lot of money tied up in processing to balance things out properly. To the best of my knowledge NOBODY who is seriously interested in sounding good (or getting loud) uses multiple sizes/types of subs. 80hz and down there is simply no need. If you wanted to get really fancy shoot for a 3 way with sub doing 60hz and down, 8" in the doors doing 60-300hz or so, then some 5-6" mids doing 300-2Khz and tweets from 2Khz up in the doors. Better option as someone else has mentioned is horns under the dash and 8" midwoofer in the doors. Image Dynamics makes the gold standard 2 way horn kit for the car. If you were good with fiberglass you could probably buy a cheaper compression driver and mold your own horns, and mate with a reasonably priced 8" woofer. This is a great arrangement but simply won't fit in most cars. Keep it SIMPLE. Some good quality 6.5" coaxials in good locations would sound far better than just throwing everything you've got at it, and the W0 12 can play every sub frequency you need. IF you're as handy as you say and wood or space isn't an issue, have someone design a folded horn or t-line for that W0 and see what good box design can really do. *Edit* look into Dayton subs in place of W0. They're good bang for buck and partsexpress often has great sales on them. Soundstream is garbage. In fact, I'd avoid outboard EQ entirely, that played out in the 80's. For the past 10 years any EQ worth using is digital and entry level for those is over 500$. Pioneer DEH 80prs can be had cheap these days and the built in crossover, time alignment, and EQ functionality is high quality and a fantastic value. You will not regret buying that head unit. [/QUOTE]

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