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<blockquote data-quote="Matt Overpeck" data-source="post: 55614" data-attributes="member: 544285">quote:&quot;I have a pair of Mass2012&#039;s in my car. And after going to a local car show....I&#039;m ashamed to even play them. I&#039;m going for the JL 12w6v2&quot;________________________________________________________________Not sure what kind of &quot;car show&quot; you went to (or how much power your running), but you should understand that big ported / SPL box apps (if that is the kind of show you were at), are NOT what the MASS subs were designed to do.&nbsp; The MASS subs can get very loud (as documented by the orignal test of the proto MASS 2012, yet it still managed to play louder (129.1 dB) then a CV Stroker 15 did in a 3.2&#039; vented box (129.0 dB).&nbsp; So that is pretty remarkable.This is why Tom Nousaine call the MASS 2012, &quot;the new stroke and SPL champion!&quot;&nbsp; The SPL part referred to having &#039;broken&#039; the SPL record for a single sub, &#039;in-car&#039;, as tested by CSR / M-E.&nbsp; Not bad for a &#039;SQ&#039; sub...While the new W6 appear to be an excellent driver, perhaps your not aware that the MASS subs&nbsp; offer FAR more excusion (Xmax) then the W6v2&#039;s do (24 mm vs 16.5 mm) and will handle more power etc.&nbsp; So you should be aware that the chances of your performance being even &#039;as good&#039; with those new subs, is not a strong probability.&nbsp; Just FYI...Good luck with your system!MattAudiomobile</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Matt Overpeck, post: 55614, member: 544285"] quote: [B]"I have a pair of Mass2012's in my car. And after going to a local car show....I'm ashamed to even play them. I'm going for the JL 12w6v2"[/B] ________________________________________________________________ Not sure what kind of "car show" you went to (or how much power your running), but you should understand that big ported / SPL box apps (if that is the kind of show you were at), are NOT what the MASS subs were designed to do. The MASS subs can get very loud (as documented by the orignal test of the proto MASS 2012, yet it still managed to play louder (129.1 dB) then a CV Stroker 15 did in a 3.2' vented box (129.0 dB). So that is pretty remarkable. This is why Tom Nousaine call the MASS 2012, "the new stroke and SPL champion!" The SPL part referred to having 'broken' the SPL record for a single sub, 'in-car', as tested by CSR / M-E. Not bad for a 'SQ' sub... While the new W6 appear to be an excellent driver, perhaps your not aware that the MASS subs offer FAR more excusion (Xmax) then the W6v2's do (24 mm vs 16.5 mm) and will handle more power etc. So you should be aware that the chances of your performance being even 'as good' with those new subs, is not a strong probability. Just FYI... Good luck with your system! Matt Audiomobile [/QUOTE]

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