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<blockquote data-quote="camaudio" data-source="post: 1613" data-attributes="member: 540927">i didnt ask you for an essay, but you fairly defended yourself(i didnt mean to bash)sense my last post, i went out and bought 2 perfect 12.1D(very impressive looking and heavy) and continued to connect them exacly as i had my p12ils(ma audio) except at a different load to the amplifier beginning with parallel series(i used just about every method of connection).&nbsp; i then ran my version of testing, including some 303 infinity and Fear Factory.&nbsp; the infinity did good(excursion was weak) but the quality and imaging was there.&nbsp; Then came the real test. i rewired back to parallel stereo, put in my favorite bass cd(bass 305) and cranked it.&nbsp; not even a close to the volume of my ma&#039;s, the infinitys stop playing and i could hear scratching, so i took the sub out and the vc cam off the bottom of the cone, so i exchanged them, and the other 2 did the same thing(at the piont the store was pissed) so i got my money back.as to ma audio, i have never had a single problem. i run my amp with a 4 ohm midbass to each channel, and a 1.5 ohm load bridged(i have no idea the total load of that) but its never even got warm, even in arizona where its 120 degrees out.the subs sound very good for sq, and when i want, very good for spl.i wasnt aware of the lvs problem.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="camaudio, post: 1613, member: 540927"] i didnt ask you for an essay, but you fairly defended yourself(i didnt mean to bash) sense my last post, i went out and bought 2 perfect 12.1D(very impressive looking and heavy) and continued to connect them exacly as i had my p12ils(ma audio) except at a different load to the amplifier beginning with parallel series(i used just about every method of connection). i then ran my version of testing, including some 303 infinity and Fear Factory. the infinity did good(excursion was weak) but the quality and imaging was there. Then came the real test. i rewired back to parallel stereo, put in my favorite bass cd(bass 305) and cranked it. not even a close to the volume of my ma's, the infinitys stop playing and i could hear scratching, so i took the sub out and the vc cam off the bottom of the cone, so i exchanged them, and the other 2 did the same thing(at the piont the store was pissed) so i got my money back. as to ma audio, i have never had a single problem. i run my amp with a 4 ohm midbass to each channel, and a 1.5 ohm load bridged(i have no idea the total load of that) but its never even got warm, even in arizona where its 120 degrees out. the subs sound very good for sq, and when i want, very good for spl. i wasnt aware of the lvs problem. [/QUOTE]

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