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<blockquote data-quote="perfecxionX" data-source="post: 6371417" data-attributes="member: 572854">Illegal and immoral are synonymous?; so anything considered immoral should be illegal?&nbsp; Should cheating on your wife be illegal?After seeing your reasoning, i assume you don&#039;t think much of a right to trial by jury?&nbsp; or a right to be free from double jeopardy?Is our supreme court wrong to limit speech if it incites &quot;imminent lawless action?&quot;Your simple breathing example works well for your purposes but i think a closer look at specifically how a government interacts with society requires a call for many other rights simply on a pragmatic basis.&nbsp; And btw, J.S. Mill is one of the most influential political theorists of the last two hundred years.&nbsp; He is taught in probably every undergrad constitutional law class and has been referenced by numerous supreme court justices.&nbsp; I hope you have at least read On Liberty before regarding it&#039;s arguments as &quot;a turd of logic.&quot;Jefferson was heavily influenced by Locke.&nbsp; That&#039;s why you see this sort of perspective in the Declaration and not the constitution.&nbsp; Jefferson wrote the declaration but had little input in the constitution.&nbsp; Of course, just because it was his opinion, does not necessarily make it so.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="perfecxionX, post: 6371417, member: 572854"] Illegal and immoral are synonymous?; so anything considered immoral should be illegal? Should cheating on your wife be illegal? After seeing your reasoning, i assume you don't think much of a right to trial by jury? or a right to be free from double jeopardy? Is our supreme court wrong to limit speech if it incites "imminent lawless action?" Your simple breathing example works well for your purposes but i think a closer look at specifically how a government interacts with society requires a call for many other rights simply on a pragmatic basis. And btw, J.S. Mill is one of the most influential political theorists of the last two hundred years. He is taught in probably every undergrad constitutional law class and has been referenced by numerous supreme court justices. I hope you have at least read [I]On Liberty[/I] before regarding it's arguments as "a turd of logic." Jefferson was heavily influenced by Locke. That's why you see this sort of perspective in the Declaration and not the constitution. Jefferson wrote the declaration but had little input in the constitution. Of course, just because it was his opinion, does not necessarily make it so. [/QUOTE]

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