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<blockquote data-quote="DidUHearThat?" data-source="post: 6371374" data-attributes="member: 594758">No.&nbsp; Although I personally believe in a thesitic view, the &quot;theist&quot; is not needed.&nbsp; Rights are &quot;naturally&quot; occuring.&nbsp; You have a right to breathe.&nbsp; Is that right granted to you by the state or network?&nbsp; Is your right to breathe different if you&#039;re a jew or hindu?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; You simply require it, &quot;naturally&quot;, it is your right.&nbsp; To be denied that right, or other rights, is against your &quot;nature&quot; and therefore &quot;illegal&quot; or &quot;imoral&quot;.&nbsp; The term is irrelevent, the fact that you will fight to the death to defend that &quot;right&quot; is not debatable, objective or subjective.&nbsp; To argue that your right to breathe, or sleep or mate is dependent on a &quot;network&quot; or government is absurd.It is not a question of morality, religion, community or politics.&nbsp; Rights simply exist as a part of an individual.&nbsp; You cannot have one without the other.Claiming &quot;rights&quot; exist to &quot;serve a purpose&quot; is sugar coating a turd of logic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DidUHearThat?, post: 6371374, member: 594758"] No. Although I personally believe in a thesitic view, the "theist" is not needed. Rights are "naturally" occuring. You have a right to breathe. Is that right granted to you by the state or network? Is your right to breathe different if you're a jew or hindu? No. You simply require it, "naturally", it is your right. To be denied that right, or other rights, is against your "nature" and therefore "illegal" or "imoral". The term is irrelevent, the fact that you will fight to the death to defend that "right" is not debatable, objective or subjective. To argue that your right to breathe, or sleep or mate is dependent on a "network" or government is absurd. It is not a question of morality, religion, community or politics. Rights simply exist as a part of an individual. You cannot have one without the other. Claiming "rights" exist to "serve a purpose" is sugar coating a turd of logic. [/QUOTE]

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