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Message: <blockquote data-quote="slick316" data-source="post: 551501" data-attributes="member: 547549">no kidding.  i was at the local shop today and some guy comes in,  he wanted a new cd player and basically described the eclipse 8454.  they showed it to him and his reaction was "oh, it doesnt have an OEL display like Pioneer?  i think i'll get something else, thanks"he also claimed to be an audiophile where "high end features come first".</blockquote>

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