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<blockquote data-quote="pcolasfinest" data-source="post: 6739743" data-attributes="member: 562573"><p>your don&#039;t necessarily have to have your pap, it all really matters about pin placement, I have never had my pap measured. i have a venom, it did ok until there was carry down and then it couldn&#039;t handle it, just kept on skating through the back end with little pop, but that was for me, it might be different in your hands. The top weight doesn&#039;t matter either, the heavier it is then you will need a balance hole, i think my driller said anything over 2 oz will need a balance hole, thats just to make it legal.&nbsp; The invasion is going to be aggressive even at the house i bowl at, i&#039;m just going to get it for nationals and then put it away for local tournaments, i took my virtual gravity to nationals last year and it didn&#039;t even want to move on that pattern and it hasn&#039;t even left out of the box in my room since, i don&#039;t know why but i don&#039;t like that ball at all, but playing straight up 10 with my magic proved to be better than trying to go around everyone and play deep with my vg.&nbsp; But if you want a ball that really handles the carry down well, i&#039;m telling you storm hy-road, that is now my go to ball.&nbsp; Storm reign is also a good ball.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="pcolasfinest, post: 6739743, member: 562573"] your don't necessarily have to have your pap, it all really matters about pin placement, I have never had my pap measured. i have a venom, it did ok until there was carry down and then it couldn't handle it, just kept on skating through the back end with little pop, but that was for me, it might be different in your hands. The top weight doesn't matter either, the heavier it is then you will need a balance hole, i think my driller said anything over 2 oz will need a balance hole, thats just to make it legal. The invasion is going to be aggressive even at the house i bowl at, i'm just going to get it for nationals and then put it away for local tournaments, i took my virtual gravity to nationals last year and it didn't even want to move on that pattern and it hasn't even left out of the box in my room since, i don't know why but i don't like that ball at all, but playing straight up 10 with my magic proved to be better than trying to go around everyone and play deep with my vg. But if you want a ball that really handles the carry down well, i'm telling you storm hy-road, that is now my go to ball. Storm reign is also a good ball. [/QUOTE]

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