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<blockquote data-quote="Warbleed" data-source="post: 590051" data-attributes="member: 549898">We&#039;ll chalk up that last one to misunderstanding, but calling the media liberal is so common it&#039;s a cliche. You and I both know there are no shortage of theories about a &quot;liberal media conspiracy&quot;.With regard to the actual point, you needn&#039;t consult our troops nor &quot;the liberal media&quot; to arrive at the conclusion that many thousands of Iraq citizens think Bush is a terrorist. You should take note that there are THOUSANDS of US Troops who are NOT satisfied with the way the administration has handled the war.If you think most of them are happy our troops are there, you are sorrowfully mistaken...Iraq certainly wasn&#039;t the picture of serenity, and I&#039;m not claiming it was. Saddam Hussein undeniably killed many of his people in barbaric ways, but that doesn&#039;t give us the right to simply invade them.As for your Bill Clinton comment earlier, he screwed up and killed his fair share of civilians from botched cruise missile and bombing attacks as well.People seem to forget that precise weapons still miss, and even if they hit their target, they can still kill a large number of civilians.This needn&#039;t become some oversimplified dichotomy. I don&#039;t agree with many things democrats say and do, just as I don&#039;t agree with many things that the republicans say and do.Our current political system contributes to this common tendency of dichotimizing things that ought not to be dichotomies, and is one of the primary reasons why we have so many disenfranchised voters today. We live in the tyranny of a two party system.To put it very simply: Just because I am very much not a republican, does not make me a democrat. Simply because I am not a theist, does not make me an atheist...For the record, the candidate I most liked was Kucinich, not Kerry...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Warbleed, post: 590051, member: 549898"] We'll chalk up that last one to misunderstanding, but calling the media liberal is so common it's a cliche. You and I both know there are no shortage of theories about a "liberal media conspiracy". With regard to the actual point, you needn't consult our troops nor "the liberal media" to arrive at the conclusion that many thousands of Iraq citizens think Bush is a terrorist. You should take note that there are THOUSANDS of US Troops who are NOT satisfied with the way the administration has handled the war. If you think most of them are happy our troops are there, you are sorrowfully mistaken... Iraq certainly wasn't the picture of serenity, and I'm not claiming it was. Saddam Hussein undeniably killed many of his people in barbaric ways, but that doesn't give us the right to simply invade them. As for your Bill Clinton comment earlier, he screwed up and killed his fair share of civilians from botched cruise missile and bombing attacks as well. People seem to forget that precise weapons still miss, and even if they hit their target, they can still kill a large number of civilians. This needn't become some oversimplified dichotomy. I don't agree with many things democrats say and do, just as I don't agree with many things that the republicans say and do. Our current political system contributes to this common tendency of dichotimizing things that ought not to be dichotomies, and is one of the primary reasons why we have so many disenfranchised voters today. We live in the tyranny of a two party system. To put it very simply: Just because I am very much not a republican, does not make me a democrat. Simply because I am not a theist, does not make me an atheist... For the record, the candidate I most liked was Kucinich, not Kerry... [/QUOTE]

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