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<blockquote data-quote="ciaonzo" data-source="post: 8633948" data-attributes="member: 607015"><p>[quote name='shredder2']I&#39;m curious if you could explain [USER=607015]@ciaonzo[/USER] why the car I demoed was so warm and had such presence and seemingly sustain with those amps. I demoed another car that had a pair of Butler tube drivers on the front stage and it was completely different sounding, it sounded great, don&#39;t misunderstand that but the Milberts had such a warm sound I cant explain it and he played some symphony music and I swear the tympani and drums were reverberating or echoing off the back of the concert hall. It had incredible detail AND warmth... it was eerie. I&#39;ve had some fairly nice setups but <strong>nothing</strong> came close to this one. As you said was the type of tube amp different? And what do you believe was the difference? The cost as listed in that article was insane as those were mid-90&#39;s dollars, what would something like that cost today?</p></blockquote><p>Most of the reasoning behind it all is in post <a href="http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=22" target="_blank">#22</a> and the link as well. The rest would be speculation on my part but I suspect it is the bigger picture not simply the amplifier. It takes a long time to produce those results and reach that level of refinement. But as tool said, any ole 2way and sub of today can easily put it to shame I guess. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></p><p></p><p>Butlers are hybrids with solid state output sections as far as I&#39;m aware.</p><p>[/QUOTE]</p>
[QUOTE="ciaonzo, post: 8633948, member: 607015"] [quote name='shredder2']I'm curious if you could explain [USER=607015]@ciaonzo[/USER] why the car I demoed was so warm and had such presence and seemingly sustain with those amps. I demoed another car that had a pair of Butler tube drivers on the front stage and it was completely different sounding, it sounded great, don't misunderstand that but the Milberts had such a warm sound I cant explain it and he played some symphony music and I swear the tympani and drums were reverberating or echoing off the back of the concert hall. It had incredible detail AND warmth... it was eerie. I've had some fairly nice setups but [B]nothing[/B] came close to this one. As you said was the type of tube amp different? And what do you believe was the difference? The cost as listed in that article was insane as those were mid-90's dollars, what would something like that cost today?[/QUOTE]Most of the reasoning behind it all is in post [URL=http://www.caraudio.com/forums/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=22]#22[/URL] and the link as well. The rest would be speculation on my part but I suspect it is the bigger picture not simply the amplifier. It takes a long time to produce those results and reach that level of refinement. But as tool said, any ole 2way and sub of today can easily put it to shame I guess. :rolleyes: Butlers are hybrids with solid state output sections as far as I'm aware. [/QUOTE]
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