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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JL Audio" data-source="post: 8427554" data-attributes="member: 572633">they don't. While they are clean sounding subs, they just can't be placed in the lines of hdc3 and sa etc.. however.. the 12" model of the x can be made into custom subs..  the 10" might be able to be reconed custom wise as well but I know it has a smaller motor so people normally try to get the 12" models.The type Rs as what I have always recommend, loud / low somewhat cheap and can take over rated easily... also easily replaceable if blown for whatever reason..Nothing wrong with your subs, just limited by being made with so/so parts one after another where hdc3 and sa etc are hand build etc per woofer with much better softparts etc.</blockquote>

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