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Message: <blockquote data-quote="desertheat" data-source="post: 653063" data-attributes="member: 557169">Well GLAD to see this post. I am in the same boat right now looking to purchase either the same alpine or eclipse. I have always been an alpine fan and not a fan of eclipse for I used to sell them back in 00, I know they have come a long way but the older units left a sour taste in my mouth. I am totally open now and I actually think the eclipse looks more classie which is a value I always admired from alpine.I myself just sold my beloved 7949 which actually was a good generation and had 4v preouts actually tested at 5v so it is sad to see alpine has lowered the voltage... can anyone confirm the drop for sure on the 9835..?Since I am looking at both units equally I do like some of the features of the eclipse over the alpine but in my case I happen to have a 215ix pg 15band eq / 24db crossover / 8v line driver so I only run it all off the front preouts anyways so the sub preout is not used. This makes me lean the way of the alpine.Last thing that is a killer point of the alpine "even though I have no use for them" is the MASSIVE built in amp for the deck. 26wrms is freaking amazing out of a head unit and is certified at 26wrms!!! What makes that spectacular is most of the audio world that run an after market amp do not run much more than 60-75w to the mids. On paper 60-75W sounds like allot but is only about 3db more peak than the decks built in power! Now that is cool. Also crossed over at 50hz or so highpass really lets your mids jam at that wattage...I still have a few days to make my decision and again am open to both decks but right now the alpine has my nod.. I really like the xm features, always loved how ai net works and the ipod tuner. Also I use an alpine class d monoblock for my subs so it connects direct to the deck for 100% control of all of the amps features! Totally cool.</blockquote>

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