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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shinobi" data-source="post: 537986" data-attributes="member: 555492"><p>yea the F1 status system is better then the eclipse but as you said nto even same catagory  beside that **** system is near 4g's , im sorry but i'll never spend that much on a H/U even if i was rich . The 30 band H/u  I was thinking of the Pioneer DEX-P9 with the DEQ-P9  its hard to remember all that crap hehe . But reason i said what i said about eclipse kicking alpines but is b/c if you put any model eclipse close up against any alpine in the same price range im sorry but eclipse wins IMO. I do however love the new Pioneer DEH-P860 like you have very nice deck there.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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