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<blockquote data-quote="green_slip" data-source="post: 513662" data-attributes="member: 551592"><p>Alright, aside from the bickering, I tried to sort what&#039;s goin on (as far as the original topic) and here&#039;s what I came up with. I own the 8443 Eclipse model which is last years 8454..basically. The only difference I noticed between the two was the memory stick option and a few other sound options (although they didn&#039;t really help the overall SQ of the deck). I&#039;ve yet to hear an alpine that sounds as good as the 8443 but that&#039;s only to MY ears and it&#039;s an opinionated comment but that&#039;s just what !I! think. The ONLY reason I would buy the new Alpine decks is because I have an ipod and the new Alpine&#039;s have an interface or whatever that is suited for the ipod. That being said, I will never actually buy an Alpine because IMO the eclipse is a better deck and with my ipod I will just get the belkin connector which allows ipod-in-car. Hope this is of some help and I also hope someone doesn&#039;t come flaming at me because I&#039;m fairly new to car audio. Good luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="green_slip, post: 513662, member: 551592"] Alright, aside from the bickering, I tried to sort what's goin on (as far as the original topic) and here's what I came up with. I own the 8443 Eclipse model which is last years 8454..basically. The only difference I noticed between the two was the memory stick option and a few other sound options (although they didn't really help the overall SQ of the deck). I've yet to hear an alpine that sounds as good as the 8443 but that's only to MY ears and it's an opinionated comment but that's just what !I! think. The ONLY reason I would buy the new Alpine decks is because I have an ipod and the new Alpine's have an interface or whatever that is suited for the ipod. That being said, I will never actually buy an Alpine because IMO the eclipse is a better deck and with my ipod I will just get the belkin connector which allows ipod-in-car. Hope this is of some help and I also hope someone doesn't come flaming at me because I'm fairly new to car audio. Good luck. [/QUOTE]

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