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<blockquote data-quote="jackson6" data-source="post: 503990" data-attributes="member: 556057">There are certain aspects of these decks that cannot be fully understood by just reading the specs for each one EX: alpine&#039;s (i-personalize) and eclipse&#039;s (E-iserv) are both online &quot;tuning systems&quot;.&nbsp; I called both eclipse and alpine to ask them about each of there &quot;systems&quot;.&nbsp; They sound like the same thing.&nbsp; One has to be better than the other (eclipse I think but not sure).&nbsp; Now if someone where to state some facts on each set up then it would be more like an objective statement not what they think.&nbsp;I agree 100% and that is exactly what I am trying to do here.&nbsp; I feel as though I am well educated on the topic but not to the extent of others in the forum.&nbsp; Have you ever gone into a car audio shop and played like a dumb *** to test the salesmen knowledge and based on his responses you will decide on weather or not you trust him?&nbsp; That is kinda what I am doing here.&nbsp; If someone is like &quot;I have an alpine deck and it is sick!&quot; and you look at his sig and he has listed: alpine deck, pyle subs, napa amp (1000 watts), napa mids, tweets from my boom box. and a quote&quot;best stereo ever&quot; are you going to trust him?&nbsp; On the other hand if someone posts:&nbsp;&nbsp; see now that is an objective comment that could help me out in gathering and understanding what specs will have the most importance to me.&nbsp; I thought that was part of the point of these forums.&nbsp; To help people out weather noob or not.&nbsp;Yes I actually already knew what 3.5MaxSpeed posted and instead of email I called and each company was helpful but what about reliability or dishonesty in there specs ex: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;amp;item=5712232292" target="_blank">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;amp;item=5712232292</a> 400w rms right.&nbsp; each company was unable to compare the &quot;internet tuning systems&quot; looked on both sites an did not find much on each system so I thought that this might be a good place to get some advice on it&nbsp;Why is that not the right kind of research?&nbsp; You really think that by getting in a little debate there is a chance that it will tear the forum apart.&nbsp; People join and view these things to learn and if someone got in a little debate it would be a good way to post a lot of useful info.If someone is knowledgeable with these decks and is willing to give me an objective comparison I don&#039;t see the harm in that.Jackson</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jackson6, post: 503990, member: 556057"] There are certain aspects of these decks that cannot be fully understood by just reading the specs for each one EX: alpine's (i-personalize) and eclipse's (E-iserv) are both online "tuning systems". I called both eclipse and alpine to ask them about each of there "systems". They sound like the same thing. One has to be better than the other (eclipse I think but not sure). Now if someone where to state some facts on each set up then it would be more like an objective statement not what they think. I agree 100% and that is exactly what I am trying to do here. I feel as though I am well educated on the topic but not to the extent of others in the forum. Have you ever gone into a car audio shop and played like a dumb *** to test the salesmen knowledge and based on his responses you will decide on weather or not you trust him? That is kinda what I am doing here. If someone is like "I have an alpine deck and it is sick!" and you look at his sig and he has listed: alpine deck, pyle subs, napa amp (1000 watts), napa mids, tweets from my boom box. and a quote"best stereo ever" are you going to trust him? On the other hand if someone posts: see now that is an objective comment that could help me out in gathering and understanding what specs will have the most importance to me. I thought that was part of the point of these forums. To help people out weather noob or not. Yes I actually already knew what 3.5MaxSpeed posted and instead of email I called and each company was helpful but what about reliability or dishonesty in there specs ex: [URL="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5712232292"]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5712232292[/URL] 400w rms right. each company was unable to compare the "internet tuning systems" looked on both sites an did not find much on each system so I thought that this might be a good place to get some advice on it Why is that not the right kind of research? You really think that by getting in a little debate there is a chance that it will tear the forum apart. People join and view these things to learn and if someone got in a little debate it would be a good way to post a lot of useful info. If someone is knowledgeable with these decks and is willing to give me an objective comparison I don't see the harm in that. Jackson [/QUOTE]

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