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<blockquote data-quote="JLCivic" data-source="post: 239840" data-attributes="member: 547424">I haven&#039;t heard any 03 alpines yet(but have heard my fair share of them over the past few years).&nbsp; There is an alpine/clarion dealer 2 hours from me(the owner was the local shop&#039;s JL rep at one time).&nbsp; Anyway, he was talking to them a couple of months ago, and in his opinion(for what it&#039;s worth), clarions sounded better AND had been more reliable for him(he was having some issues with alpine, reliability wise).I really would check out the clarion 835 though.&nbsp; Clarion doesn&#039;t seem to get as much attention on the forums as pioneer and alpine(what I see as the 2 most discussed brands), but they make nice stuff.&nbsp; The local shop has sold clarion ever since they opened(11 years or so), and they have been very pleased with them.Alpine and clarion should both be relatively easy to find to demo I would think.&nbsp; I have used eclipse decks for many years, and I hadn&#039;t heard a deck that I liked better.&nbsp; I had the shop put the 835 in because I couldn&#039;t wait for the 8053 any longer(and I may very well go to that deck if and when it ever ships).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JLCivic, post: 239840, member: 547424"] I haven't heard any 03 alpines yet(but have heard my fair share of them over the past few years). There is an alpine/clarion dealer 2 hours from me(the owner was the local shop's JL rep at one time). Anyway, he was talking to them a couple of months ago, and in his opinion(for what it's worth), clarions sounded better AND had been more reliable for him(he was having some issues with alpine, reliability wise). I really would check out the clarion 835 though. Clarion doesn't seem to get as much attention on the forums as pioneer and alpine(what I see as the 2 most discussed brands), but they make nice stuff. The local shop has sold clarion ever since they opened(11 years or so), and they have been very pleased with them. Alpine and clarion should both be relatively easy to find to demo I would think. I have used eclipse decks for many years, and I hadn't heard a deck that I liked better. I had the shop put the 835 in because I couldn't wait for the 8053 any longer(and I may very well go to that deck if and when it ever ships). [/QUOTE]

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