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Adding 2nd battery, how much 'better' is XS compared to say duralast platinum agm (h8/h9)
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<blockquote data-quote="Firewalker" data-source="post: 8769014" data-attributes="member: 676743"><p>I know all that I was a manager of a few parts stores, heavy duty trucks and powersports including marina in Florida. I've seen a ton of batteries cut in half in my lifetime by sales reps. People think Optima is this great battery and since they were sold they are not what they used to be now they are junk compared to what an original one looked like when cut in half as I remember their salesmen coming in and showing us. Then when they were sold they started to use cheaper components but still hit on the "Optima" name can't blame them people for the most part don't do research and never will. They buy based on a name or the "oh I used this 10 years ago it must still be the same quality" kind of garbage. People think that Walmart Everstart Maxx batteries are junk because well its Walmart, they are made by Johnson Controls and are the same battery you see in other brands just a different logo on it. As stated there is still only 4-6 companies that make them. Yes there is lower tier components in every battery maker out there. If I had to choose and had the money a Odyssey (owned by Johnson Controls now after a sale a couple years ago) or the XS would be my choice. I have a Walmart Everstart Maxx "N" classified for North/Winter weather that I put in oh 3 years or so ago now and has been one of the best batteries I've bought except the Energizer branded Batteries I used to buy in the '90s. It can be -10 out and start right up with no issues vs the Exide I tried which went bad after 2 years, the Interstate high end model man what a complete piece of you know what. Mind you I don't drive but maybe 2500 miles a year but in the winter time I also use a Schumacher trickle charger that I have permanently installed on the Explorer just plug it in and leave it be. Worth the 40 bucks they sell for. </p><p></p><p>An AGM "should" have better components in it compared to other ones they make. There used to be a HUGE PDF file that showed who made what battery including the plants and where in the world it was made by the numbers you see on a battery sticker but it hasn't been available for a few months or at least last time I checked it wasn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Firewalker, post: 8769014, member: 676743"] I know all that I was a manager of a few parts stores, heavy duty trucks and powersports including marina in Florida. I've seen a ton of batteries cut in half in my lifetime by sales reps. People think Optima is this great battery and since they were sold they are not what they used to be now they are junk compared to what an original one looked like when cut in half as I remember their salesmen coming in and showing us. Then when they were sold they started to use cheaper components but still hit on the "Optima" name can't blame them people for the most part don't do research and never will. They buy based on a name or the "oh I used this 10 years ago it must still be the same quality" kind of garbage. People think that Walmart Everstart Maxx batteries are junk because well its Walmart, they are made by Johnson Controls and are the same battery you see in other brands just a different logo on it. As stated there is still only 4-6 companies that make them. Yes there is lower tier components in every battery maker out there. If I had to choose and had the money a Odyssey (owned by Johnson Controls now after a sale a couple years ago) or the XS would be my choice. I have a Walmart Everstart Maxx "N" classified for North/Winter weather that I put in oh 3 years or so ago now and has been one of the best batteries I've bought except the Energizer branded Batteries I used to buy in the '90s. It can be -10 out and start right up with no issues vs the Exide I tried which went bad after 2 years, the Interstate high end model man what a complete piece of you know what. Mind you I don't drive but maybe 2500 miles a year but in the winter time I also use a Schumacher trickle charger that I have permanently installed on the Explorer just plug it in and leave it be. Worth the 40 bucks they sell for. An AGM "should" have better components in it compared to other ones they make. There used to be a HUGE PDF file that showed who made what battery including the plants and where in the world it was made by the numbers you see on a battery sticker but it hasn't been available for a few months or at least last time I checked it wasn't. [/QUOTE]
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