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<blockquote data-quote="PeteNYC" data-source="post: 1090052" data-attributes="member: 555450"><p>$6,000...OK, I'm a HUGE SQ guy and I have a lot of experience in this department.</p><p></p><p>The boys were right i n saying...It's BETTER to have OK parts and a GREAT installer than have GREAT parts and a OK installer!!!</p><p></p><p>If you remeber that, you'll be fine!!!</p><p></p><p>The good thing here is you have no need for super bass, which gets so expensive due to the cost of multiple amps, multiple subs, electrical upgrades which can get extremly expensive, capacitors, extra dampening etc. This non-need for you in extra bass means you can spend more on the SQ side while maintaining a good install.</p><p></p><p>Here is some ideas and they are not limited to as such:</p><p></p><p>HEAD UNIT: Eclipse 8053 (Discontinued model, but has 16volt balanced output signal to be used in conjunction with Zapco's Symbilink connections. This combo gives you incredible clarity and no noise. Ebay this if you have to. A must!! $400</p><p></p><p>FRONT STAGE: Focal Utopia 165W $800</p><p></p><p>REAR FILL: Focal Access 165CA $175</p><p></p><p>AMPS: Zapco 1000.4 (Highs, mids and rear) $700...Zapco 1100.1 (subs) $700</p><p></p><p>SUBS: 2 JL Audio 10W6v2's $500</p><p></p><p>BOX: Sealed enclosure @ 1.0 cu.ft. per driver Custom made at a shop $200</p><p></p><p>EQ/CO: Zapco SX-SL2 Eq/crossover at the dash $ $650</p><p></p><p>BIG 3 wiring under the hood (price for parts included in wiring)</p><p></p><p>DAMPENING: SecondSkin or Dynamat $200</p><p></p><p>CAPACITOR: Alumapro 5 farad capacitor $250</p><p></p><p>WIRING: All Stinger HP,0 gauge from battery to amps, 16 gauge speaker wire for highs and mids, 12 gauge for subs, Symbilink wiring, connectors, etc. $150</p><p></p><p>BATTERY: Optima Red Top $175</p><p></p><p>LABOR...$1,800 ($75 per hour times 24 hours of installing)</p><p></p><p>Hawaii is NOT cheap as far as I know, so labor at a very good shop will be @ $60-75 per hour. Figure roughly 3 working days to do it all at $75 would be $1800. They have to dampen the doors, hatch area, wiring, Big 3, build a box, install speakers, HU, etc. it's a lot of work and a god shop doesn't rush!</p><p></p><p>GRAND TOTAL: $6,000</p><p></p><p>Now, these prices are ballparks mostly, and may have to be altered, but never the less it is approximate. As far as labor 3 days should cut it. There is the chance you may need to upgrade to a high output alternator later on if you need more power. According to my past systems though, you should be fine with that draw, given yo uhave a decent alternator existing. If you would like to finish off your electrical system, pay an additional $350 and get a domenick Irraggi alternator, maybe 220 AMP and call it a day.</p><p></p><p>This system will provide you with superb SQ, great imaging and staging. The Symbilink connections will provide clear and noise free listening.</p><p></p><p>I understand that you do not need heavy bass, but with this setup, you will have superb SQ in your JL 10W6v2 subs in a sealed box, which is also for SQ. The 10" size will provide a punchy, quick hitting type bass that will be awesome in combination with your front stage! This type of bass you WILL enjoy, beleive me. It's pure and clear and accurate, not that boomy loud stuff.</p><p></p><p>Your electrical system would be ideal and ready for this new load of components.</p><p></p><p>The dampening of your car will provide a rattle free envirement while keeping all the music INSIDE the car as you stated as one of your necessary needs. It also gives your sound a better fullness and you will not be heard nearly as much outside the vehicle.</p><p></p><p>I've provided a state of the art Zapco SX-SL2 crossover/eq. This is the true ingredient that will give your music the incredible sound. It is very expensive, but to me... the best eq/co in the world for the money!!! It is in a league of it's own. A SUPER must!!! Especially since it's inputs will be Symbilink as well. You'll have a 16 volt signal from head unit, to SX-SL2 to amps, ALL THE WAY THROUGH!!! I know you dont understand, but 16 volt is a ridiculous number poducing unimaginable SQ and effect.</p><p></p><p>I have heard a similar system to this that I owned, and it is simply stunning and sooo enjoyable!!! you will thank me later, beleive me! You can also upgrade later on and get a good midbass, maybe even bi-amp your highs, better battery, more subs (you WILL want more bass!! Everyone always starts low.lol) You may move up the ladder to the C2K Competition line from Zapco, etc. This is a solid foundation and as you learn, you may upgrade. The best part about the products I have chosen is their resale values are sick!!! you can ebay them at 70% of your money no problem! This allows you to upgrade later on without spending as much.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, let me know what you think, and I'm sure most of the educated folk on this board would agree for what you need, this is about as good as it'll ever get!!!</p><p></p><p>GOOD LUCK AND ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!</p><p></p><p>PeteyGoesBoom!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PeteNYC, post: 1090052, member: 555450"] $6,000...OK, I'm a HUGE SQ guy and I have a lot of experience in this department. The boys were right i n saying...It's BETTER to have OK parts and a GREAT installer than have GREAT parts and a OK installer!!! If you remeber that, you'll be fine!!! The good thing here is you have no need for super bass, which gets so expensive due to the cost of multiple amps, multiple subs, electrical upgrades which can get extremly expensive, capacitors, extra dampening etc. This non-need for you in extra bass means you can spend more on the SQ side while maintaining a good install. Here is some ideas and they are not limited to as such: HEAD UNIT: Eclipse 8053 (Discontinued model, but has 16volt balanced output signal to be used in conjunction with Zapco's Symbilink connections. This combo gives you incredible clarity and no noise. Ebay this if you have to. A must!! $400 FRONT STAGE: Focal Utopia 165W $800 REAR FILL: Focal Access 165CA $175 AMPS: Zapco 1000.4 (Highs, mids and rear) $700...Zapco 1100.1 (subs) $700 SUBS: 2 JL Audio 10W6v2's $500 BOX: Sealed enclosure @ 1.0 cu.ft. per driver Custom made at a shop $200 EQ/CO: Zapco SX-SL2 Eq/crossover at the dash $ $650 BIG 3 wiring under the hood (price for parts included in wiring) DAMPENING: SecondSkin or Dynamat $200 CAPACITOR: Alumapro 5 farad capacitor $250 WIRING: All Stinger HP,0 gauge from battery to amps, 16 gauge speaker wire for highs and mids, 12 gauge for subs, Symbilink wiring, connectors, etc. $150 BATTERY: Optima Red Top $175 LABOR...$1,800 ($75 per hour times 24 hours of installing) Hawaii is NOT cheap as far as I know, so labor at a very good shop will be @ $60-75 per hour. Figure roughly 3 working days to do it all at $75 would be $1800. They have to dampen the doors, hatch area, wiring, Big 3, build a box, install speakers, HU, etc. it's a lot of work and a god shop doesn't rush! GRAND TOTAL: $6,000 Now, these prices are ballparks mostly, and may have to be altered, but never the less it is approximate. As far as labor 3 days should cut it. There is the chance you may need to upgrade to a high output alternator later on if you need more power. According to my past systems though, you should be fine with that draw, given yo uhave a decent alternator existing. If you would like to finish off your electrical system, pay an additional $350 and get a domenick Irraggi alternator, maybe 220 AMP and call it a day. This system will provide you with superb SQ, great imaging and staging. The Symbilink connections will provide clear and noise free listening. I understand that you do not need heavy bass, but with this setup, you will have superb SQ in your JL 10W6v2 subs in a sealed box, which is also for SQ. The 10" size will provide a punchy, quick hitting type bass that will be awesome in combination with your front stage! This type of bass you WILL enjoy, beleive me. It's pure and clear and accurate, not that boomy loud stuff. Your electrical system would be ideal and ready for this new load of components. The dampening of your car will provide a rattle free envirement while keeping all the music INSIDE the car as you stated as one of your necessary needs. It also gives your sound a better fullness and you will not be heard nearly as much outside the vehicle. I've provided a state of the art Zapco SX-SL2 crossover/eq. This is the true ingredient that will give your music the incredible sound. It is very expensive, but to me... the best eq/co in the world for the money!!! It is in a league of it's own. A SUPER must!!! Especially since it's inputs will be Symbilink as well. You'll have a 16 volt signal from head unit, to SX-SL2 to amps, ALL THE WAY THROUGH!!! I know you dont understand, but 16 volt is a ridiculous number poducing unimaginable SQ and effect. I have heard a similar system to this that I owned, and it is simply stunning and sooo enjoyable!!! you will thank me later, beleive me! You can also upgrade later on and get a good midbass, maybe even bi-amp your highs, better battery, more subs (you WILL want more bass!! Everyone always starts low.lol) You may move up the ladder to the C2K Competition line from Zapco, etc. This is a solid foundation and as you learn, you may upgrade. The best part about the products I have chosen is their resale values are sick!!! you can ebay them at 70% of your money no problem! This allows you to upgrade later on without spending as much. Anyway, let me know what you think, and I'm sure most of the educated folk on this board would agree for what you need, this is about as good as it'll ever get!!! GOOD LUCK AND ENJOY!!!!!!!!!! PeteyGoesBoom! [/QUOTE]
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