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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chriscivic" data-source="post: 1306722" data-attributes="member: 563876"><p>a underated 85x4 amp was not loud enough for me on my type r components. i even bridged it once to give each speaker and tweeter 220rms and it still wasn't that loud and they started to smell. i don't see how people say all you need is 30-50 watts,etc.  if you want loud get more power and something besides type r's. if you just want louder than what you got than the 50 watts would work i guess</p></blockquote><p></p>

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