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<blockquote data-quote="Savant" data-source="post: 160603" data-attributes="member: 546108"><p>First, thanks for providing this info.. you helped straighten a few things out that I was obviously confused on.. specifically that microwave ovens work on the principal of resonanting water specifically.. makes sense.. I guess the heating of stuff that is 'micro safe' that is 'dry' isn't completly dry, just dry enough no to explode? but has enough water to get warm-ish..</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now, I'm not sure that the sound from the contraction is only 7 Hz.. Supposedly we can't hear below 20-ish.. but doctors use a stethiscope (sp) to listen to your heart, and I don't believe it changes the sound, just amplifies it.. I could be wrong though..</p><p></p><p></p><p>This would most likely be true.. and if your heart is stopping and you are dying, the effect on the rest of the body is moot //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p><p></p><p></p><p>I guess I was mistaken on the overall classification.. But, all waves are waves and share some common properties, but at various freqs have unique ones as well.. such as light can travel through a vaccume but not solid objects, and sound requires substance to traverse through (you can't create sound in a vaccume -outer space-, but tapping on a wall makes a sound on the other side).. In that context, sound waves 'pass through' you where light wouldn't.. on it's way through you it deposits energy.. That's what I was trying to get at..</p><p></p><p>(see the attached image, it shows that sound are waves, and that goes all the way up to light... they are all wave forms just at differing frequencies..)</p><p></p><p></p><p>well, again.. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanism that has the direct effect.. is it a resonance thing that causes instability in the tissue? This seems to be more likely since someone said they heard the right frequency (being loud enough) could cause you to become incontinant.. that makes me think the muscle tissue just lets go.. if that happened in your heart.. well...</p><p></p><p>I can also see that a standing wave could be created that exerts enough force to 'squeez' the heart..</p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm sure you can find it someplace.. but since it's not something that heppens all that often so you will probabaly have a hard time finding it..</p><p></p><p> </p><p>I would think the 60 Hz might disrupt muscle action and prevent you from pulling off the source.. but I doubt is has anything to do with the heart or killing you.. I say this because as soon as you start to undergo damage, your body reacts by increasing adrenalin output which would change the rate of your heart, and seperate it from the 'magic freq'.. not to mention that even though the 'average' BPM may be 60, some may have a resting rate below that, other above that.. Then, you have a situation where you say the 60 would disrupt the heart, but what if you just got done running a mile? and your heart rate was at 110?, does that mean you won't 'die' from the wall until your heart rate came down? na..</p><p></p><p>Actaully, when I think about it more.. even though you are saying electrical engineers have told you this, I still don't think the freq is what holds.. I think it's more the amperage as it kills you.. over-rides the signals from the brain.. I know I've made my tongue twitch/get stiff by licking a 9v battery, and that would be discharging without any frequency, just dumping into the tissue.. I've never really seen someone die on a powerline outside so I can't say I know if you will get blown back or frozen in place.. All I know is, if you are trying to get someone 'off' the current, you aren't supposed to just grab them and pull/push as you will freeze in place too, you are supposed to try and use inertia to 'knock' them away (dive at them or something)..</p><p></p><p>Anyway.. we don't really know.. and won't know until either someone can find a document to support it, or we decide to test it //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Savant, post: 160603, member: 546108"] First, thanks for providing this info.. you helped straighten a few things out that I was obviously confused on.. specifically that microwave ovens work on the principal of resonanting water specifically.. makes sense.. I guess the heating of stuff that is 'micro safe' that is 'dry' isn't completly dry, just dry enough no to explode? but has enough water to get warm-ish.. Now, I'm not sure that the sound from the contraction is only 7 Hz.. Supposedly we can't hear below 20-ish.. but doctors use a stethiscope (sp) to listen to your heart, and I don't believe it changes the sound, just amplifies it.. I could be wrong though.. This would most likely be true.. and if your heart is stopping and you are dying, the effect on the rest of the body is moot [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] I guess I was mistaken on the overall classification.. But, all waves are waves and share some common properties, but at various freqs have unique ones as well.. such as light can travel through a vaccume but not solid objects, and sound requires substance to traverse through (you can't create sound in a vaccume -outer space-, but tapping on a wall makes a sound on the other side).. In that context, sound waves 'pass through' you where light wouldn't.. on it's way through you it deposits energy.. That's what I was trying to get at.. (see the attached image, it shows that sound are waves, and that goes all the way up to light... they are all wave forms just at differing frequencies..) well, again.. I'm not exactly sure of the mechanism that has the direct effect.. is it a resonance thing that causes instability in the tissue? This seems to be more likely since someone said they heard the right frequency (being loud enough) could cause you to become incontinant.. that makes me think the muscle tissue just lets go.. if that happened in your heart.. well... I can also see that a standing wave could be created that exerts enough force to 'squeez' the heart.. I'm sure you can find it someplace.. but since it's not something that heppens all that often so you will probabaly have a hard time finding it.. I would think the 60 Hz might disrupt muscle action and prevent you from pulling off the source.. but I doubt is has anything to do with the heart or killing you.. I say this because as soon as you start to undergo damage, your body reacts by increasing adrenalin output which would change the rate of your heart, and seperate it from the 'magic freq'.. not to mention that even though the 'average' BPM may be 60, some may have a resting rate below that, other above that.. Then, you have a situation where you say the 60 would disrupt the heart, but what if you just got done running a mile? and your heart rate was at 110?, does that mean you won't 'die' from the wall until your heart rate came down? na.. Actaully, when I think about it more.. even though you are saying electrical engineers have told you this, I still don't think the freq is what holds.. I think it's more the amperage as it kills you.. over-rides the signals from the brain.. I know I've made my tongue twitch/get stiff by licking a 9v battery, and that would be discharging without any frequency, just dumping into the tissue.. I've never really seen someone die on a powerline outside so I can't say I know if you will get blown back or frozen in place.. All I know is, if you are trying to get someone 'off' the current, you aren't supposed to just grab them and pull/push as you will freeze in place too, you are supposed to try and use inertia to 'knock' them away (dive at them or something).. Anyway.. we don't really know.. and won't know until either someone can find a document to support it, or we decide to test it [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]
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