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<blockquote data-quote="mrray13" data-source="post: 736782" data-attributes="member: 540942">i&#039;ve seen ti&#039;s fall apart with 1.5kwrms on them daily.....i mean literally. the magnet and voice coil were rolling around inside the box! it also scorched the basket a lil....all eclipse did (after 5 months of no sub) was reattach everything. the basket is still scorched and they couldn&#039;t explain why the sub fell apart like that.also, i have yet to hear a ti setup that sounds good. loud, yes, very loud. but sound good? nah..IMO the eclipse alums are far better subs then the ti&#039;s. they sound far and away better and get **** near as loud. and,again ,IME, the alums last longer.btw, most every ti setup i&#039;ve heard has been ported, save one.....the 15&quot; setup was two of them in about 8ft^3, tuned in the low 30&#039;s, each with a st1500d memphis amp(ford expedition/caddy &#039;lade). one a dual 12&quot; setup, in about 5ft^3 total and a rf 1501 d on each (crown vic)one and a three 12 setup in the back of a cutlass supreme..all three sharing power from a pair of rf bd 1501ds...this setup was eventually changed to three alpine type r&#039;s and then to three eclipse alums. i have no idea how they wired it..but i know this..each was in about 2ft^3 sealed each..and the alums kicked the hell outa the other two setups...but that&#039;s just IME...wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/peace.gif.2db28b618ed8d1964ebbe2f5021d2c39.gif</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mrray13, post: 736782, member: 540942"] i've seen ti's fall apart with 1.5kwrms on them daily.....i mean literally. the magnet and voice coil were rolling around inside the box! it also scorched the basket a lil....all eclipse did (after 5 months of no sub) was reattach everything. the basket is still scorched and they couldn't explain why the sub fell apart like that. also, i have yet to hear a ti setup that sounds good. loud, yes, very loud. but sound good? nah..IMO the eclipse alums are far better subs then the ti's. they sound far and away better and get **** near as loud. and,again ,IME, the alums last longer. btw, most every ti setup i've heard has been ported, save one.....the 15" setup was two of them in about 8ft^3, tuned in the low 30's, each with a st1500d memphis amp(ford expedition/caddy 'lade). one a dual 12" setup, in about 5ft^3 total and a rf 1501 d on each (crown vic)one and a three 12 setup in the back of a cutlass supreme..all three sharing power from a pair of rf bd 1501ds...this setup was eventually changed to three alpine type r's and then to three eclipse alums. i have no idea how they wired it..but i know this..each was in about 2ft^3 sealed each..and the alums kicked the hell outa the other two setups... but that's just IME... wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [IMG]//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/peace.gif.2db28b618ed8d1964ebbe2f5021d2c39.gif[/IMG] [/QUOTE]

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