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[RobGMN Premium Member]

Spins, Backpedals, Calling BS, Misdirection... ALL INCOMING!!!

Instead of doing all that, why don't you just stay on topic and speak to the false claim you made about Biden telling immigrants to "surge the border", and speak to the actual words he spoke in the debate?
Here they are. Again.
Please explain how you understood his words as "hey migrants, you should surge the border":

The word "surge" was used 5x in the debate. Three of those were in regard to medical care. Two had to do with the border:
"Look, we can deal with securing the border by national technical means. All the bad things are coming through ports of entry right now, we don't need a wall. And by the way, I would immediately as President, surge to the border, I would end this notion for the first time in history that people seeking asylum have to be in squalor on the other side of the river, in a desperate situation. They should be able to come to the United States and have a judgment made as whether or not they qualify. I would also surge to the border immigration judges to make decisions immediately and no one, no one would be put in jail while waiting for their hearing."

Do you think Biden is an illegal? Do you think immigration judges are illegals? It seems he only suggested himself, or judges, surge the border.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Instead of doing all that, why don't you just stay on topic and speak to the false claim you made about Biden telling immigrants to "surge the border", and speak to the actual words he spoke in the debate?
Here they are. Again.
Please explain how you understood his words as "hey migrants, you should surge the border":

The word "surge" was used 5x in the debate. Three of those were in regard to medical care. Two had to do with the border:
"Look, we can deal with securing the border by national technical means. All the bad things are coming through ports of entry right now, we don't need a wall. And by the way, I would immediately as President, surge to the border, I would end this notion for the first time in history that people seeking asylum have to be in squalor on the other side of the river, in a desperate situation. They should be able to come to the United States and have a judgment made as whether or not they qualify. I would also surge to the border immigration judges to make decisions immediately and no one, no one would be put in jail while waiting for their hearing."

Do you think Biden is an illegal? Do you think immigration judges are illegals? It seems he only suggested himself, or judges, surge the border.

“I would, in fact, make sure that there is—we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum.” - Candidate Biden in September of 2019.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You are not going to win this argument Rob. You are also going to deplete your post count.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Couldn't back up my claim? What are the videos? AI fakes? STFU.

Speak to the actual words Biden said, not how you were told by someone else to interpret or understand them.
THESE words:
"Look, we can deal with securing the border by national technical means. All the bad things are coming through ports of entry right now, we don't need a wall. And by the way, I would immediately as President, surge to the border, I would end this notion for the first time in history that people seeking asylum have to be in squalor on the other side of the river, in a desperate situation. They should be able to come to the United States and have a judgment made as whether or not they qualify. I would also surge to the border immigration judges to make decisions immediately and no one, no one would be put in jail while waiting for their hearing."

Do you think Biden is an illegal? Do you think immigration judges are illegals? It seems he only suggested himself, or judges, surge the border.

Seriously. If you are unable to deal with facts, just say that fact mean nothing to you and you live live day to day just accepting your beliefs as facts.
Then we can move on, knowing that your world is only what happens in your head.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Speak to the actual words Biden said, not how you were told by someone else to interpret or understand them.
THESE words:
"Look, we can deal with securing the border by national technical means. All the bad things are coming through ports of entry right now, we don't need a wall. And by the way, I would immediately as President, surge to the border, I would end this notion for the first time in history that people seeking asylum have to be in squalor on the other side of the river, in a desperate situation. They should be able to come to the United States and have a judgment made as whether or not they qualify. I would also surge to the border immigration judges to make decisions immediately and no one, no one would be put in jail while waiting for their hearing."

Do you think Biden is an illegal? Do you think immigration judges are illegals? It seems he only suggested himself, or judges, surge the border.

Seriously. If you are unable to deal with facts, just say that fact mean nothing to you and you live live day to day just accepting your beliefs as facts.
Then we can move on, knowing that your world is only what happens in your head.

Says the blind guy.

“I would, in fact, make sure that there is—we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum.” - Candidate Biden in September of 2019.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I have things to do. Please, waste more time.

 

[Eggs 5,000+ posts]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

“I would, in fact, make sure that there is—we immediately surge to the border, all those people seeking asylum.” - Candidate Biden in September of 2019.

Ahh, so you are going to change his words and then try to claim it is a quote of his words. Something you constantly accuse ME of doing, but have never once proved it.

In other words, you are lying. And you did so in a VERY large font, so it's much easier to see the lie.
You see, if you are putting quotes around something, you don't get to change the words to suit your narrative.
Grammar 101.

Here are the ACTUAL words he said, quoted VERBATIM, not altered like you did:
"What I would do as president is several more things, because things have changed. I would, in fact, make sure that there is -- we immediately surge to the border. All those people who are seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard. That's who we are. We're a nation who says, if you want to flee, and you're freeing oppression, you should come."
Joe Biden 12 September 2019

"WE" is used to mean the United States. WE are a nation. WE surge to the border. Why? So those who are seeking asylum can be heard.

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

Do us a favor, and just stay out of this particular conversation

Are you telling me where I can and cannot post on caraudio.com?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You going to try to convince us these numbers are wrong? Notice the surge in 2019 after Biden told immigrants to surge the border. Notice how many more come to America after Biden is inserted into office.

Why would I do that? They are numbers that I have shared in the past.
I guess you didn't see the part where they surged under Trump right in the middle of his 4 years, or where the expulsion DIDN'T surge until Biden got in office?
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Jesus Christ. Whatever you say Rob because I refuse to argue with a blind man about the color of anything for 10+ pages. Also, don't tell people to stay out of anything. Just like the left, trying to stop free speech.

So, you make a false claim about what Biden said during a debate.
You are asked to provide proof to back up your claim, but fail to do so.
Your false claim then gets handily disproved based on a verbatim quote of what was said during the debate.

And then you get upset and pull a "whatever you say" as it the verbatim quote form the debate is some kind of fake news or "alternative fact", when it's literally a verbatim quote.

This is the type of argument I have been seeing from the right for more than half a decade.
What is it about facts that you find so abhorrent? Is it simply that they get in the way of your beliefs and how you WANT things to be?

You could literally watch Trump kick a baby stroller in the lobby of his building, and then you'd argue to the death that it was in some way a positive thing, or that it never happened at all.


ETA - And then after making a false claim, you alter Biden's words and post it as if it is a quote of what he said.
Priceless.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Are you telling me where I can and cannot post on caraudio.com?

Post wherever you want.
If you get off on being a useless gnat, then have fun?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Ahh, so you are going to change his words and then try to claim it is a quote of his words. Something you constantly accuse ME of doing, but have never once proved it.

In other words, you are lying. And you did so in a VERY large font, so it's much easier to see the lie.
You see, if you are putting quotes around something, you don't get to change the words to suit your narrative.
Grammar 101.

Here are the ACTUAL words he said, quoted VERBATIM, not altered like you did:
"What I would do as president is several more things, because things have changed. I would, in fact, make sure that there is -- we immediately surge to the border. All those people who are seeking asylum, they deserve to be heard. That's who we are. We're a nation who says, if you want to flee, and you're freeing oppression, you should come."
Joe Biden 12 September 2019

"WE" is used to mean the United States. WE are a nation. WE surge to the border. Why? So those who are seeking asylum can be heard.

It is not. WE are the migrants as they are the topic.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Post wherever you want.
If you get off on being a useless gnat, then have fun?

Still insulting people Rob?

 

[spokey9 5,000+ posts]

If you get off on being a useless gnat, then have fun?

What if I do identify as a gnat...your statement there is far from welcoming of diversity or accepting of my identify...