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[ThxOne Premium Member]

That’s why 99% of people being hospitalized are the unvaccinated, and those who are vaccinated but get COVID have much less severe symptoms.
Must be the mass hypnosis psychosis.

Ok, I wanted to go research before I responded. All I can find are articles stating estimates nation wide at over 90% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated. Some are vague and some are specifically saying hospitalized for COVID-19 and being not vaccinated. Yet other articles are saying as of December 2021 that 17% of adults over 18 years old are unvaccinated. This percentage "should" be lower as people continue to get the vaccines. So this brings me to numbers. Specifically for you RobGMN as you are a numbers man.

How many adults over 18 is 17% of our population?
How many people are currently hospitalized specifically for COVID-19? (This has to be a known number as they are giving percentages of this number as being unvaccinated between and over 90 - 99%)
I have to assume that this number is well below the 17% of adults over 18 years of age.

What are your thoughts RobGMN?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Ok, I wanted to go research before I responded. All I can find are articles stating estimates nation wide at over 90% of hospitalizations are unvaccinated. Some are vague and some are specifically saying hospitalized for COVID-19 and being not vaccinated. Yet other articles are saying as of December 2021 that 17% of adults over 18 years old are unvaccinated. This percentage "should" be lower as people continue to get the vaccines. So this brings me to numbers. Specifically for you RobGMN as you are a numbers man.

How many adults over 18 is 17% of our population?
How many people are currently hospitalized specifically for COVID-19? (This has to be a known number as they are giving percentages of this number as being unvaccinated between and over 90 - 99%)
I have to assume that this number is well below the 17% of adults over 18 years of age.

What are your thoughts RobGMN?

35,551,776 is 17% of our population who are over 18.
From what I can find, the 7 day average of admissions for people 18 and over is just shy of 17,000.
It’s about 800 for people under 18. In other words, we can’t say the 90% are unvaccinated because they are under 18.

If we were only talking about 17,000 people and no more, would you consider it far beyond coincidence that even 90% of them had a commonality such as not being vaccinated?

Imagine 17,000 people enter the hospital with an atypical pneumonia. Of those people, 90% are known to have attended the same convention. Pretty much their only commonality. Coincidence? Nope.

17,000 people are hospitalized due to COVID. Their commonality? 90% are unvaccinated. Coincidence? Maybe. But someone then must explain how such a HUGE coincidence could occur, and WHY. Perhaps those 90% are also right-handed. Or redheads. Maybe they eat dark chocolate instead of milk.

Flip a coin 17,000 times. If you come up with heads 90% of the time, amazing coincidence? No. There’s a REASON.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

35,551,776 is 17% of our population who are over 18.
From what I can find, the 7 day average of admissions for people 18 and over is just shy of 17,000.
It’s about 800 for people under 18. In other words, we can’t say the 90% are unvaccinated because they are under 18.

If we were only talking about 17,000 people and no more, would you consider it far beyond coincidence that even 90% of them had a commonality such as not being vaccinated?

Imagine 17,000 people enter the hospital with an atypical pneumonia. Of those people, 90% are known to have attended the same convention. Pretty much their only commonality. Coincidence? Nope.

17,000 people are hospitalized due to COVID. Their commonality? 90% are unvaccinated. Coincidence? Maybe. But someone then must explain how such a HUGE coincidence could occur, and WHY. Perhaps those 90% are also right-handed. Or redheads. Maybe they eat dark chocolate instead of milk.

Flip a coin 17,000 times. If you come up with heads 90% of the time, amazing coincidence? No. There’s a REASON.

So if we round up to 18,000 people across the country are being admitted for COVID-19 and of those 18,000, 90% are not vaccinated... those are pretty low numbers for sure. It also means that 10% of those estimated 18,000 being admitted are vaccinated. Is it also safe to say that there are 35,533,776 est. people "over 18" that are not vaccinated that aren't having COVID-19 issues. Of these left over 35,533,776 est. people "over 18" that are unvaccinated, how many of these people have had COVID-19 and recovered and now have a natural immunity?

I am just trying to figure out a more accurate estimation on the number of "Unvaccinated Persons" who are a problem still in this 35,551,776 number because clearly it is not the whole 17%. If one is to say a person is still a problem if they are unvaccinated but have natural immunity because they can still catch and transmit COVID then the same has to be said about fully vaccinated persons as they can still catch and transmit COVID. COVID and be spread from the vaccinated to the vaccinated as well. I am not speaking on how COVID affects a fully vaccinated person, that is irrelevant to this conversation.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

The vaccines do work to create more variants. Fauci himself said there’s breakthrough cases with omicron in the vaccinated. That’s straight from the horse’s mouth.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

That’s why natural immunity is the best

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

I love how China releases a bioweapon and then everyone blames the unvaccinated

Haha this is a clown world.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

That’s why natural immunity is the best

OK then, what is the acceptable loss of life to form the natural immunity instead of using a vaccination?
50% of the population? More? Less?

You're in complete and total fear of a vaccination that has had ill-effect on only 1/1000 of one percent of people vaccinated.
The death rate from COVID is 1.3%, or 2,300x worse than ill effects from the vaccine.
So, why such a push from you for death? 'Sounds an awful lot like YOU are the Nazi who is looking to destroy humanity.

Would you have preferred we rely on natural immunity to build up against all of the other diseases we've eradicated or been able to control? Would you be willing to be the test subject to determine how the body reacts and forms immunity to this "19" and its variants?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Not everyone who has gotten COVID-19 or has died from COVID-19 contracted it from unvaccinated people. EVERYONE can catch COVID-19 and pass it on to someone else. EVERYONE. The only people who will die more often from it is the unvaccinated. Clearly they don't want or need someone else "saving their lives". If they don't want it then let it be. As long as you are vaccinated and overly boosted, you should be less likely to die from COVID-19. An unvaccinated person has NO BEARING on if you, a vaccinated person, will die from COVID-19. As stated, it is FACT that you can catch COVID-19 from FULLY VACCINATED AND BOOSTED people.

The only things people should be "focused" on is themselves, social distancing and sanitizing. What people should be "worried" about is why the government is trying to mandate the vaccine.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Not everyone who has gotten COVID-19 or has died from COVID-19 contracted it from unvaccinated people. EVERYONE can catch COVID-19 and pass it on to someone else. EVERYONE. The only people who will die more often from it is the unvaccinated. Clearly they don't want or need someone else "saving their lives". If they don't want it then let it be. As long as you are vaccinated and overly boosted, you should be less likely to die from COVID-19. An unvaccinated person has NO BEARING on if you, a vaccinated person, will die from COVID-19. As stated, it is FACT that you can catch COVID-19 from FULLY VACCINATED AND BOOSTED people.

The only things people should be "focused" on is themselves, social distancing and sanitizing. What people should be "worried" about is why the government is trying to mandate the vaccine.

For the same reason they mandate other vaccines: the public good.

Vaccine mandates are nothing new. It’s only very recently that there has been an outcry against them. Probably no small coincidence that it happened in a time of someone screaming “fake news” while telling the public >21,000 lies in a 4 year span.

Ya, unvaccinated people have an effect on both vaccinated and unvaccinated people. Unvaccinated people who get sick have a higher rate of transmission to others than vaccinated. It’s been medically proved.

And 100% on the social distancing and sanitizing. Remind the anti-mask idiots who pick fights in public with people who HAVE masks on.
As if someone wearing a mask is hurting them. However, someon not wearing a mask CAN be hurting others. Getting harassed for acting on behalf of your fellow citizen.
This world needs an enema.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

OK then, what is the acceptable loss of life to form the natural immunity instead of using a vaccination?
50% of the population? More? Less?

You're in complete and total fear of a vaccination that has had ill-effect on only 1/1000 of one percent of people vaccinated.
The death rate from COVID is 1.3%, or 2,300x worse than ill effects from the vaccine.
So, why such a push from you for death? 'Sounds an awful lot like YOU are the Nazi who is looking to destroy humanity.

Would you have preferred we rely on natural immunity to build up against all of the other diseases we've eradicated or been able to control? Would you be willing to be the test subject to determine how the body reacts and forms immunity to this "19" and its variants?

I'm a Nazi because I don't want to take a vaccine and don't think people should be kicked out of society for their medical health choices, like choosing not to take an experimental vaccine? That totally makes sense, bro. I'm the Nazi for believing that you should have health freedoms that are solely determined for each individual by each individual? Got it. Makes perfect sense. You should be a journalist.

 

[Buck 5,000+ posts]

For the same reason they mandate other vaccines: the public good.

The public good is lie. That's what communists and totalitarians say.

What's good for each individual is the only way to reach good for a society at a whole. There's no one plan for anything that you can blanket over the entire country or world that will work for everyone, especially medically. You'd know that if you knew anything about genetics and how they work, lol.

 

[SlugButter]

I'm a Nazi because I don't want to take a vaccine and don't think people should be kicked out of society for their medical health choices, like choosing not to take an experimental vaccine? That totally makes sense, bro. I'm the Nazi for believing that you should have health freedoms that are solely determined for each individual by each individual? Got it. Makes perfect sense. You should be a journalist.

You can tell how a person lives their life Buck. Passive aggressive weaklings. Some people will push you, then when they get punched in the face you might be the one who goes to jail, but the passive aggressive dickhead who first did the pushing is the one who is too hateful to be peaceful but too weak to be aggressive. Just look at how scared these people are. It must be agonizing to live life that way. No wonder they hate people around them.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

I'm a Nazi because I don't want to take a vaccine and don't think people should be kicked out of society for their medical health choices, like choosing not to take an experimental vaccine? That totally makes sense, bro. I'm the Nazi for believing that you should have health freedoms that are solely determined for each individual by each individual? Got it. Makes perfect sense. You should be a journalist.

Nazis would choose more deaths over less deaths.
You choose 2,300x the deaths over adverse reactions (which are not deaths).
Good on you.

You proved long ago that you do not understand the concept of the greater good in any way. I’m surprised you managed to live your whole life without ever having done things that were required and for the greater good.
Must have lived off grid and in a cave your whole life.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

You can tell how a person lives their life Buck. Passive aggressive weaklings. Some people will push you, then when they get punched in the face you might be the one who goes to jail, but the passive aggressive dickhead who first did the pushing is the one who is too hateful to be peaceful but too weak to be aggressive. Just look at how scared these people are. It must be agonizing to live life that way. No wonder they hate people around them.

Pushing is not passive aggressive, it’s a direct assault and certainly can get you decked.
“Scared people”? Who are the sissys who are afraid of needles and think they are tough because a failure of a president said it’s “weak” to wear a mask and get vaccinated.
Buncha’ fvckin scared little sheep, following their dumb@ss failed messiah.