BL recomendations pleas

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

Can you guys recommend me some woofers out there that have the greatest motor strength or Bl. I know the RE MT has great motor strength but I cant afford it with my other upgrades im planning. Thanks guys //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

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[Nikuk 5,000+ posts]

If You can tell me Why You need motor's with "more BL", then I will gladly run You a list a high BL drivers.

-Nick

Yes, Seriously.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

Prolly looking for loud woofers...but...

If your looking for something that will get balls loud for cheap...check out the Incriminator Audio LI's. I'm using 1 12" in my GF's setup...2 cubes NET @30hz+ 600rms = 140.7 on the TL //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

NG

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

If You can tell me Why You need motor's with "more BL", then I will gladly run You a list a high BL drivers.
-Nick

Yes, Seriously.

John says,

"a woofer needs to excite the resonance of the port as much as possible. To do this you want lots of motor strength or Bl" and I take his word for it. List please?? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

If BL strength had such a direct link to output ability, don't you thin we'd see posts like this all the time? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif BL is but one factor in the design of a woofer. In fact, there is such a thing as too much BL force. Look at the Eclipse Ti Pro for example.

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

If BL strength had such a direct link to output ability, don't you thin we'd see posts like this all the time? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif BL is but one factor in the design of a woofer. In fact, there is such a thing as too much BL force. Look at the Eclipse Ti Pro for example.

X2!!! but Ill compare apples to apples when I know some brands with high to moderate Bl within my price range //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif I know ex... most cone area, moderate x-max....

 

[chubby 10+ year member]

If BL strength had such a direct link to output ability, don't you thin we'd see posts like this all the time? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif .

No, because since when do people on this board care about T/S parameters, and the ones that do, don't need to ask.

 

[T3mpest 10+ year member]

^ sad, but true.

 

[Nikuk 5,000+ posts]

John says,"a woofer needs to excite the resonance of the port as much as possible. To do this you want lots of motor strength or Bl" and I take his word for it. List please?? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

Riiiiight. John who? Go read some Vance....

If BL strength had such a direct link to output ability, don't you thin we'd see posts like this all the time? //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif BL is but one factor in the design of a woofer. In fact, there is such a thing as too much BL force. Look at the Eclipse Ti Pro for example.

Das mah point.

No, because since when do people on this board care about T/S parameters, and the ones that do, don't need to ask.

X^2

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

This is almost as bad as shopping for a sub based on magnet size. Its the same idea, more MUST be better, without understand that a speaker is a complex design whose final performance is based not only on each individual specification/part, but how they interact with each other. Again, if you aren't following what Im saying, do a search here for Eclipse Ti Pro and read the comments said about how its 'over motored'. Not only does it serve no useful purpose to performance, it can actually hinder it over a design with the proper BL strength.

If this John person you speak of told you that, either 1) he misunderstands that BL strength is irrelevant if only considered by itself, or (and more likely) 2) he knew this but you misunderstood his point. BL strenght IS important, but looked at in and of itself means almost nothing.

 

[ngsm13 5,000+ posts]

This is almost as bad as shopping for a sub based on magnet size. Its the same idea, more MUST be better, without understand that a speaker is a complex design whose final performance is based not only on each individual specification/part, but how they interact with each other. Again, if you aren't following what Im saying, do a search here for Eclipse Ti Pro and read the comments said about how its 'over motored'. Not only does it serve no useful purpose to performance, it can actually hinder it over a design with the proper BL strength.
If this John person you speak of told you that, either 1) he misunderstands that BL strength is irrelevant if only considered by itself, or (and more likely) 2) he knew this but you misunderstood his point. BL strenght IS important, but looked at in and of itself means almost nothing.

Oh, pick me...pick me...it's #2!!!!!

NG

 

[JimJ 5,000+ posts]

I know Wiggins and Ponte have written extensively on the subject before, but the url's escape me at the moment...

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

Riiiiight. John who? Go read some Vance....


Das mah point.

X^2

Here is his contact info:

John Janowitz

_________________

Acoustic Elegance/AE Speakers

1825 Mills St

Green Bay, WI 54302

phone: (920) 469-9198

 

[SPL140.2 5,000+ posts]

If this John person you speak of told you that, either 1) he misunderstands that BL strength is irrelevant if only considered by itself, or (and more likely) 2) he knew this but you misunderstood his point. BL strenght IS important, but looked at in and of itself means almost nothing.

I didnt misunderstand his point, I realize there is more to a woofer than Bl, I'm looking for a woofer with high Bl etc.... Im not just looking at the motor strength but when I get a list Ill compare woofer to woofer and choose the right one for my application. Thanks though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif anyone have any recomendations???

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Bramah Extreme...