ASPM-1300 disappeared? from ebay?

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

Here's my situation.
Stock 18 year old 80 amp 12v alternator.

Planned System will include 2 Infinity Reference 12's each at 300 watts RMS

I don't want to blow the subs by running 500 watts RMS to each.

I have 2 options, one of which I have questions for.

Either I can get some 375-500 watt RMS subs, hook em up to a 1500 at 2 ohms, and turn the gain all the way down, so I'm not pushing more than 750 watts RMS from the amp,

OR, just stick with the infinity subs, get the 1300 and have the subs and amp matched perfectly.

I like the second idea.

For a daily setup, you arent going to see much of a difference between 600 rms and 750 rms if you are comparing drivers that are at least somewhat similar. For your alternator setup, I would reccomend a halfway decent battery (doesnt need to be a car audio specialized battery) along with the "big 3". Two 300rms subs should be fine. If not, get a bigger battery.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

You are misunderstanding me. I'll write it up so a 5th grader can read it.
A person needs 750RMS @ 1 ohm.

an APSM-1300 is rated @ 1000rms, but actually produces 750rms as you state. So, thats 750rms CLAMPED POWER for $110 via ebay

The next cheapest options i can think of for 750rms @ 1 ohm are mbquart ONYX and hifonics, both of which are decently priced.

A Hifonics HIFI1000 runs $150 shipped

A ONYX1000 is also $150 shipped

The APSM might not do rated, but the person needing the 750rms will be plenty satisfied, and he will save himself $40 - that essentially turns into a free box or a free wiring kit

Now, i know your smart *** is going to come back with "well why dont you buy an ramp that does a rated output of 750rms rather than 1000"

Feel free to find me an amp that does 750rms @ 1 ohm rated, that is cheaper than an APSM-1300 @ $110 shipped. Most marketed amps fall at 500 or 1000rms ratings, so an amplifier designed to produce power in between those marks will usually be mainsteam equipment, which will obviously come with a larger price tag.

Is your head out yet?

it will never be out because it wasnt in to begin with. let me break it down since you dont understand the point me WD and everyone is is trying to make k?

they over tax electrical for the power they put out. k? their sound is not that good as other competitors that are in the same price range. and ill ask you again. how many have you owned and installed?

 

[EpicMango 10+ year member]

I wish somebody told me about Power Acoustik Amps because I found this amp...

POWER ACOUSTIK CRYPT CPT1-1500 Mono Car Amplifier/Amp (709483034761) | eBay

Sighhh.....

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

it will never be out because it wasnt in to begin with. let me break it down since you dont understand the point me WD and everyone is is trying to make k?
they over tax electrical for the power they put out. k? their sound is not that good as other competitors that are in the same price range. and ill ask you again. how many have you owned and installed?

The APSM? none. Audiopipe? A few.

Feel free to explain your reasoning behind "overtaxing electrical". if a person needs 750 rms, he will need electrical to satisfy that requirement REGARDLESS of the amplifier being used. It could be a 750rms amp or a 75,000rms amp, but if used @ 750 rms, the amplifiers efficiency will play an extremely small role in power consumption at that low of wattage.

Once again, if i needed 500rms of power. I would buy an amp rated at 1000rms of power if 1) it was cheaper than the competitor and 2) it did at least 500rms. Why spend more than you have to if you're on a budget?

EDIT: I'm not even going to touch on the "sound" that the amplifier produces to the subs. lol

 

[05fronty 5,000+ posts]

I wish somebody told me about Power Acoustik Amps because I found this amp...
POWER ACOUSTIK CRYPT CPT1-1500 Mono Car Amplifier/Amp (709483034761) | eBay

Sighhh.....

there is a reason why this wasn't brought up

 

[EpicMango 10+ year member]

there is a reason why this wasn't brought up

I'm going to go ahead and make the assumption that, that amp is ****?

Cryptic or ASPM 1300?

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

The APSM? none. Audiopipe? A few.
Feel free to explain your reasoning behind "overtaxing electrical". if a person needs 750 rms, he will need electrical to satisfy that requirement REGARDLESS of the amplifier being used. It could be a 750rms amp or a 75,000rms amp, but if used @ 750 rms, the amplifiers efficiency will play an extremely small role in power consumption at that low of wattage.

Once again, if i needed 500rms of power. I would buy an amp rated at 1000rms of power if 1) it was cheaper than the competitor and 2) it did at least 500rms. Why spend more than you have to if you're on a budget?

ok first off the mb quart can be had cheap and other amps. but i will explain the electrical now

so we have an audiopipe that has 750rms of clean power. that would normally take 75 amps. with the audiopipe it will take an upwards of 80-85

thats 5-10 amps wasted on nothing but inefficiency. why have a 750 rms amp that draws like a nice 8-900 watt amp?

the price will never be cheap enough to make them worth running

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

ok first off the mb quart can be had cheap and other amps. but i will explain the electrical now
so we have an audiopipe that has 750rms of clean power. that would normally take 75 amps. with the audiopipe it will take an upwards of 80-85

thats 5-10 amps wasted on nothing but inefficiency. why have a 750 rms amp that draws like a nice 8-900 watt amp?

the price will never be cheap enough to make them worth running

I would like to see some hard evidence that the audiopipe requires an additional 10 amps, lol. 5 MAYBE

And even if the amp did have an additional 5 amps of draw, that is not enough to need any further electrical modifications for a low power setup as is being discussed.

And why have a 750rms amp if i can find one that does 900rms at the same draw? Because if i need 750rms, im not going to waste the extra $50+ for power i dont need.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

I would like to see some hard evidence that the audiopipe requires an additional 10 amps, lol. 5 MAYBE
And even if the amp did have an additional 5 amps of draw, that is not enough to need any further electrical modifications for a low power setup as is being discussed.

And why have a 750rms amp if i can find one that does 900rms at the same draw? Because if i need 750rms, im not going to waste the extra $50+ for power i dont need.

its not for power. its for a reliable amp that you wont have to worry much about AND a company that will help if the amp fails. seriously its a simple proven fact. they are trash. you get what you pay for.

 

[stl_314 10+ year member]

Supergumby has proven his point over and over and u still decide to argue about it. From my personal experience u cant beat the power to price ratio of ap.

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

Supergumby has proven his point over and over and u still decide to argue about it. From my personal experience u cant beat the power to price ratio of ap.

im not arguing. im giving out TRUE info about them. i will let you fall into the pit everyone else does at some point. good luck with your junk.

 

[Supergumby5000 5,000+ posts]

its not for power. its for a reliable amp that you wont have to worry much about AND a company that will help if the amp fails. seriously its a simple proven fact. they are trash. you get what you pay for.

Lmao, you're completely changing the subject. We went from talking about power output needs to reliability and company customer service. You were proven wrong, life goes on.

Will it help if i say "Im wrong, you're right, congratulations"? If so, we can pretend that this converstation (if you want to call it that) didnt happen.

EDIT: And for the record, DOA amps will always be replaced. If the amp is installed properly, there shall be no need for dealing with customer service nor reliability issues.

 

[EpicMango 10+ year member]

I think that both sides had good points. Their argument actually helped me better understand amps.

 

[stl_314 10+ year member]

What point did u prove? That it does not do rated?we agreed on that but also agreed that at the power it will do there is no other amp at its price range

So in turn u cant beat these for budget builds

 

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What point did u prove? That it does not do rated?we agreed on that but also agreed that at the power it will do there is no other amp at its price range

So in turn u cant beat these for budget builds

 

[CAT MAN 5,000+ posts]

Lmao, you're completely changing the subject. You were proven wrong, life goes on.
Will it help if i say "Im wrong, you're right, congratulations"? If so, we can pretend that this converstation (if you want to call it that) didnt happen.

i am not wrong. like i said i have owned and tested two of my own. they were all the same crap. i didnt change anything.

http://www.caraudio.com/forums/thunderdome-forum-members-only/531556-audiopipe-sub-par.html

there is the thread prior to more testing done by me. it really saddens me to see people so blinded now days that they cant see what junk is