Pacers/Pistons game

[LBX2G 10+ year member]

didn't the pistons beat shaq in the finals last year? i would take billups over parker anyday. billups is much better defensively, stronger physical, can get to the basket, and makes clutch shots. parker got owned by payton in the playoffs last year. the same payton who struggled mightly against billups, who by the way was finals mvp. and hamilton one of the best mid range shooters in the game could average close to 20 points a game. also rasheed wallace who is a versitale inside and outside threat, who can rebound and block shots. oh and ben wallace who is among the league leaders in rebounds and block shots, who was second in the eastern conference in double-doubles. did i mention antonio mcdyess yet? an all-star calibur player who averaged 20 point and 10 rebounds and he's coming of the bench. also someone you never heard of, carlos delfino. extremely talented swing man who can get to the basket and knock down shots coming off the bench. also there is that one guy darko milicic the second overall pick last year. i forgot about tayshaun prince. excellent 3-point shooter. remember that game winning block in the eastern conference finals? also remember him coming off the bench and shutting down mcgrady?

first off an high school could have shut down mcgrady last year. He could not fukin reconize an zone defense.
OH so now u want JOrdan, what about he defense, huh where did it go.

U kno what go home and ask ur moms for ur balls back.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Duncan is much better Shaq. He's faster, he has a good midrange jumper, he can step out of the paint on defense, no one uses the glass like him, he's a better passer, and he doesn't get in foul trouble as much as Shaq. In case you haven't been paying attention, the Spurs are a better team than they were last year. Tony Parker is becoming a great PG, and he showed last year he's clutch in the playoffs. Manu has been going insane and he can do anything on the floor. And they got the three-point threat they needed in Brent Barry.


Umm...there's no "exactly" to go along with what I said. My point was that I will never become a Steelers fan because I root for my home team. What the hell is wrong with you?

i wouldn't say much better then shaq. duncan is great but he isn't that dominat force shaq is. also detroit has 2 interior defenders that makes it hard for teams to score. billups is a better defender then parker, and billups can use his size to his advantage against parker. also people forget about hamilton. he's starting to develop a 3 point shot and he is making a name for himself as being a playoff performer. what makes you think san antonio will breaze by minnesota? if duncan is so much better then shaq, how come the spurs couldn't beat the lakers?

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

first off an high school could have shut down mcgrady last year. He could not fukin not reconize an zone defense.
OH so now u want JOrdan, what about he defense, huh where did it go.

U kno what go home and ask ur moms for ur balls back.

for one thing i was talking about the playoffs 2 years ago when the pistons were down 3 games to 1. yea sure a high schooler can stop the nba's leading scorer. didn't jordan make the nba all-defense team a couple times? he also had pippen who was an excellent defender and rodman.

 

[Qckrun 10+ year member]

i wouldn't say much better then shaq. duncan is great but he isn't that dominat force shaq is. also detroit has 2 interior defenders that makes it hard for teams to score. billups is a better defender then parker, and billups can use his size to his advantage against parker. also people forget about hamilton. he's starting to develop a 3 point shot and he is making a name for himself as being a playoff performer. what makes you think san antonio will breaze by minnesota? if duncan is so much better then shaq, how come the spurs couldn't beat the lakers?

Umm Spurs did beat the lakers and took the championship in 03 you dumbass.

 

[LBX2G 10+ year member]

oh and also orlando was in a big *** critcse whent they signed hill. THey thought he would be healthy next season. Oh and hill did not play that much in his last years cus of his injurys.

oh and thing about the clipper. The clipper where good but they have an dumbass owner. I mean who trades Miles and odom.

 

[themainman 10+ year member]

First of all none of the fans got knocked out idiots. They may have falling down but not knocked out. The first fan that was attacked did nothing wrong and he WILL sue so I'm happy for him. The person who through the beer should of gotten his *** whooped because thats considered assault and battery. A fan at a wwe show poured beer on Eddie Guarro and he beat his *** for it. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif Also someone said that this was the worst sporting event fight with fans then he's wrong. If anyone remembers tha Riddick Bowe and I forgot the other guys name, boxing match, there were a bunch of racist black fans attacking white fans and camera men when I fight broke out in the ring. Imo I think alot of black people don't like us whites. **** em!

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

LoL are you gettin phucked by the pistons or something? If you think hamilton is one of the best midrange shooters in the league you are pretty **** dumb.
Ben among the lead leaders in Blocks and rebounds.. lets check this out.

NBA · EAST · WEST

LEADER - BLOCKS/GAME

Player Team DIV P GP GS BLK BLKAVG

Andrei Kirilenko UTA NW SF 10 10 49 4.9

Theo Ratliff POR NW C 8 8 26 3.2

Brendan Haywood WAS SE C 6 6 19 3.2

Alonzo Mourning NJ ATL C 9 5 27 3.0

Shaquille O'Neal MIA SE C 10 10 29 2.9

Ben Wallace DET CEN C 6 6 17 2.8

Oh well look at that Wallace is below O'neil. Hmmm.

Player Team DIV P GP GS OREB DREB TREB REBAVG

Kevin Garnett MIN NW PF 8 8 23 100 123 15.4

Tim Duncan SA SW PF 9 9 38 80 118 13.1

Zach Randolph POR NW PF 8 8 31 66 97 12.1

Ben Wallace DET CEN C 6 6 25 46 71 11.8

Dwight Howard ORL SE PF 9 9 36 67 103 11.4

Shawn Marion PHO PAC SF 9 9 29 74 103 11.4

Shaquille O'Neal MIA SE C 10 10 40 73 113 11.3

on Rebounds Wallace has him but looky Duncan.... hmmmm.... ummm...hmmm...

you dumb ****ing idiot. there has only been 8 games this season and he has only played like 6. i was talking about years past. he is still averaging almost 12 rebound and 3 blocks per game and still near the top. did i mention ben wallace is one of only 4 players to ever lead the league in block shots and rebounds? anyways according to your stats he's still around the top 5.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Umm Spurs did beat the lakers and took the championship in 03 you dumbass.

does derick fisher knocking down that last second shot ring a bell? the spurs won games 1 & 2 but lost 4 straight in the semi finals. how about the years before when the spurs were swept by the lakers?

 

[LBX2G 10+ year member]

hamilton is a set shooter, all they did was run picks and shoot. THat will not last long in the nba. Yeah jordan was a good denfener but an better offensive player. I do not see many JOrdan poster with him being an defender.

Cus if a team can not score they can not win. I mean a steal does not count as point. I have seen this second hand. I am a basketball player i have the medal's to prove it. you are a fan. so look on espn an support guys like me.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

oh and also orlando was in a big *** critcse whent they signed hill. THey thought he would be healthy next season. Oh and hill did not play that much in his last years cus of his injurys.

oh and thing about the clipper. The clipper where good but they have an dumbass owner. I mean who trades Miles and odom.

so, it's still the fact that dumars gave up offense for defense.

 

[Gauntlet 5,000+ posts]

parker got owned by payton in the playoffs last year.

Ok, it's pretty obvious you didn't even watch the playoffs last year, because the exact opposite happened. Feel free to check the box scores of each game here. I'm gonna go ahead and ask you stop making comments on the sport of basketball until you learn what you are talking about.

 

[LBX2G 10+ year member]

oh and also prick if u kno anything about sports u should never let the game get that close. I mean robert horry was the best clutch shooter in the league. BUt the laker let him go. Clutch shots do not mean shit.

I mean is PAyton manning an sorry qb cus he threw some stupid clutch pass.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

hamilton is a set shooter, all they did was run picks and shoot. THat will not last long in the nba. Yeah jordan was a good denfener but an better offensive player. I do not see many JOrdan poster with him being an defender.
Cus if a team can not score they can not win. I mean a steal does not count as point. I have seen this second hand. I am a basketball player i have the medal's to prove it. you are a fan. so look on espn an support guys like me.

hamilton is almost a reggie miller clone except not as great shooting the 3. almost no one has the kind of conditioning to keep up with him when he does not have the ball. he also averages close to 20 points, and over 20 in the postseason.

 

[iceteebone 5,000+ posts]

Ok, it's pretty obvious you didn't even watch the playoffs last year, because the exact opposite happened. Feel free to check the box scores of each game here. I'm gonna go ahead and ask you stop making comments on the sport of basketball until you learn what you are talking about.

your link doesn't work. i know parker played well the first 2 games but struggled later on in the series.

 

[Qckrun 10+ year member]

you dumb ****ing idiot. there has only been 8 games this season and he has only played like 6. i was talking about years past. he is still averaging almost 12 rebound and 3 blocks per game and still near the top. did i mention ben wallace is one of only 4 players to ever lead the league in block shots and rebounds? anyways according to your stats he's still around the top 5.

02-03

Player G Off. Def. Total Avg.

Kevin Garnett,MIN 82 3.0 10.9 1139 13.9

Tim Duncan, SA 69 3.3 9.2 859 12.4

Ben Wallace, DET 81 4.0 8.4 1006 12.4

Erick Dampier, GS 74 4.6 7.3 887 12.0

Carlos Boozer, CLE 75 3.1 8.4 857 11.4

Player G Blk. Avg.

Theo Ratliff, POR 85 307 3.61

Ben Wallace, DET 81 246 3.04

Andrei Kirilenko, UTA 78 246 3.04

Tim Duncan, SA 69 185 2.68

Marcus Camby, DEN 72 187 2.60

01-02

Player G Off. Def. Total Avg.

Ben Wallace, Det. 80 318 721 1039 13.0

Tim Duncan, S.A. 82 268 774 1042 12.7

Kevin Garnett, Min. 81 243 738 981 12.1

Danny Fortson, G.S. 77 290 609 899 11.7

Elton Brand, L.A.C. 80 396 529 925 11.6

Player G Blk. Avg.

Ben Wallace, Det. 80 278 3.48

Raef LaFrentz, Dal. 78 213 2.73

Alonzo Mourning, Mia. 75 186 2.48

Tim Duncan, S.A. 82 203 2.48

Dikembe Mutombo, Phi. 80 190 2.38

00-01

Player G Off. Def. Total Avg.

Dikembe Mutombo, Phi 75 307 708 1015 13.5

Ben Wallace, Det 80 303 749 1052 13.2

Shaquille O'Neal, L.A.L. 74 291 649 940 12.7

Tim Duncan, S.A. 82 259 738 997 12.1

Antonio McDyess, Den 70 240 605 845 12.1

Player G Blk. Avg.

Theo Ratliff, Atl 50 187 3.74

Jermaine O'Neal, Ind. 81 228 2.81

Shawn Bradley, Dallas 82 228 2.78

Shaquille O'Neal, L.A.L. 74 204 2.76

Dikembe Mutombo, Phi. 75 203 2.71

99-00

Player G Off. Def. Total Avg.

Dikembe Mutombo, Atl. 82 304 853 1157 14.1

Shaquille O'Neal, L.A.L. 79 336 742 1078 13.6

Tim Duncan, S.A. 74 262 656 918 12.4

Kevin Garnett, Minn. 81 223 733 956 11.8

Chris Webber, Sac. 75 189 598 787 10.5

Player G Blk. Avg.

Alonzo Mourning, Mia. 79 294 3.72

Dikembe Mutombo, Atl. 82 269 3.28

Shaquille O'Neal, L.A.L. 79 239 3.03

Theo Ratliff, Phi. 57 171 3.00

Shawn Bradley, Dal. 77 190 2.47

**** now look at that..... He's only leaded the league in one year, thats no wheres near every year. Since 99 hes only been in the top 5, 5 times before.

Duncan= 6 in top 5.

Im pretty sure on any day Duncan over Wallace any day as wallace cant make a shot for his life.