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I have a 2008 Honda Civic EX 4D and am wondering on the sub ideal location. I know I want to run an 8in sub, but I am unsure if I should stick with my wanted sealed 8in box OR if I should potentially use the factory location in the rear deck. Could the rear deck even support an actually 8in sub (DC Audio, Sundown, etc)? Let alone actual sound decent and not like ish?      

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You would have to deaden the rear deck substanially plus decouple the plastic cover. Those cars rattle lile crazy back there. A single 8 in a sealed box will barely be noticeable. 


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all your ideas will sound weak. an IB 8 or sealed 8 wont give you anything worthwhile especially with the brands you are looking at which are purely engineered for ported performance with their subs.  


09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS......Mids/Highs two pioneer gm 8604 bridged, one at 4 ohms bridged one at 2 ohms bridged, one ppi 600.2 for tweets.

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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16 hours ago, THATpurpleKUSH said:

You would have to deaden the rear deck substanially plus decouple the plastic cover. Those cars rattle lile crazy back there. A single 8 in a sealed box will barely be noticeable. 

So I should point out that I'm not going for bone-shattering bass. I want the sub to be loud when I need it to be (depending on what I'm listening to), but mainly for tight accurate bass.

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3 hours ago, Warpshift said:

So I should point out that I'm not going for bone-shattering bass. I want the sub to be loud when I need it to be (depending on what I'm listening to), but mainly for tight accurate bass.

You should go with a ported 10 instead of an 8. Sealed 8s are barely noticeable. You are better off having more spl than you need, that way you have the luxury of turning it down if it's too much. 


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4 hours ago, Warpshift said:

So I should point out that I'm not going for bone-shattering bass. I want the sub to be loud when I need it to be (depending on what I'm listening to), but mainly for tight accurate bass.

you wont even get to 1/10000000 of the bone shattering bass you are thinking of... you'll be lucky to even be a bit louder than your door speakers.  You need to look at subs that work well in IB, sundown dc etc... are not performers in sound quality, sealed boxes or IB.   It wont be loud when you need it to be and you'll at best get slight fill  while clipping the fk out of the sub and eventually burn it forcing it to go over its capacity while you expect way more out of it.


09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS......Mids/Highs two pioneer gm 8604 bridged, one at 4 ohms bridged one at 2 ohms bridged, one ppi 600.2 for tweets.

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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4 hours ago, THATpurpleKUSH said:

You should go with a ported 10 instead of an 8. Sealed 8s are barely noticeable. You are better off having more spl than you need, that way you have the luxury of turning it down if it's too much. 

So what sub would you recommend for tight clean bass? 

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12 minutes ago, Warpshift said:

So what sub would you recommend for tight clean bass? 

The box is more important than whatever sub you use. The right (or wrong) box will make (or break) how a sub sounds. 

What kind of music do you listen to? What is your budget for sub, amp and box? What kind of headunit do you have?


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5 minutes ago, THATpurpleKUSH said:

The box is more important than whatever sub you use. The right (or wrong) box will make (or break) how a sub sounds. 

What kind of music do you listen to? What is your budget for sub, amp and box? What kind of headunit do you have?

Headunit  Alpine ILX-W650 (comes in today)

sub budget plus box would be about $650 max

Music: Retrowave, Progressive Psy, Chillout, Downtempo Lounge, LoFi, Synthwave, Chiptunes (those are my mains lately)

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9 minutes ago, THATpurpleKUSH said:

The box is more important than whatever sub you use. The right (or wrong) box will make (or break) how a sub sounds. 

What kind of music do you listen to? What is your budget for sub, amp and box? What kind of headunit do you have?

I am also going to be replacing the speakers as well. So far I have those narrowed down to 4-5 different brands. Definitely components up front and 6.5 coax in the back. 

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10 minutes ago, THATpurpleKUSH said:

The box is more important than whatever sub you use. The right (or wrong) box will make (or break) how a sub sounds. 

What kind of music do you listen to? What is your budget for sub, amp and box? What kind of headunit do you have?

Will also be installing deadener in the trunk, doors, floor, and rear deck as well 

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13 minutes ago, THATpurpleKUSH said:

The box is more important than whatever sub you use. The right (or wrong) box will make (or break) how a sub sounds. 

What kind of music do you listen to? What is your budget for sub, amp and box? What kind of headunit do you have?

Amp budget, honestly no more than $500 

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Just now, Warpshift said:

Amp budget, honestly no more than $400 

 

4 minutes ago, Warpshift said:

Headunit  Alpine ILX-W650 (comes in today)

sub budget plus box would be about $400 max

Music: Retrowave, Progressive Psy, Chillout, Downtempo Lounge, LoFi, Synthwave, Chiptunes (those are my mains lately)

 

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22 minutes ago, Warpshift said:

Headunit  Alpine ILX-W650 (comes in today)

sub budget plus box would be about $650 max

Music: Retrowave, Progressive Psy, Chillout, Downtempo Lounge, LoFi, Synthwave, Chiptunes (those are my mains lately)

Based on that you want something with accurate transient response. Something well designed not an off the shelf rebadge. You don't need anything higher than 500w rms but the amp should be at least double the power handling of the sub to ensure the sub receives a clean signal and its actual rated power. 

This sub has pretty much what you are looking for:

http://ddaudio.com/products/subwoofers/hidef-tuned/1000-series-2/

 

There is a DD dealer in Tuscon named Audio 2000 according to the dealer locator. DD equipment is only sold in brick and mortar stores so you won't find pricing online but that sub along with a custom box should come in under $400. 


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2 hours ago, THATpurpleKUSH said:

Based on that you want something with accurate transient response. Something well designed not an off the shelf rebadge. You don't need anything higher than 500w rms but the amp should be at least double the power handling of the sub to ensure the sub receives a clean signal and its actual rated power. 

This sub has pretty much what you are looking for:

http://ddaudio.com/products/subwoofers/hidef-tuned/1000-series-2/

 

There is a DD dealer in Tuscon named Audio 2000 according to the dealer locator. DD equipment is only sold in brick and mortar stores so you won't find pricing online but that sub along with a custom box should come in under $400. 

Would you recommend the 10in or 12in? 

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2 hours ago, THATpurpleKUSH said:

Based on that you want something with accurate transient response. Something well designed not an off the shelf rebadge. You don't need anything higher than 500w rms but the amp should be at least double the power handling of the sub to ensure the sub receives a clean signal and its actual rated power. 

This sub has pretty much what you are looking for:

http://ddaudio.com/products/subwoofers/hidef-tuned/1000-series-2/

 

There is a DD dealer in Tuscon named Audio 2000 according to the dealer locator. DD equipment is only sold in brick and mortar stores so you won't find pricing online but that sub along with a custom box should come in under $400. 

Rough guesstimate of how large that box would be? I am in no way wanting a box that will take up most of my trunk. I work in IT and from time to time I have to carry around full systems or parts, so I would need the trunk space to NOT be filled with a box. 

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8 hours ago, Warpshift said:

Rough guesstimate of how large that box would be? I am in no way wanting a box that will take up most of my trunk. I work in IT and from time to time I have to carry around full systems or parts, so I would need the trunk space to NOT be filled with a box. 

Last time I made a box for a single 10 it was 20 wide 12 high 14 deep. That should leave plenty of space in your trunk. What you can do is get some cardboard boxes and place them in your trunk to mock up the size of a box to give you an idea of how much trunk space you will have left. 


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On 5/24/2019 at 4:57 PM, THATpurpleKUSH said:

Based on that you want something with accurate transient response. Something well designed not an off the shelf rebadge. You don't need anything higher than 500w rms but the amp should be at least double the power handling of the sub to ensure the sub receives a clean signal and its actual rated power. 

This sub has pretty much what you are looking for:

http://ddaudio.com/products/subwoofers/hidef-tuned/1000-series-2/

 

There is a DD dealer in Tuscon named Audio 2000 according to the dealer locator. DD equipment is only sold in brick and mortar stores so you won't find pricing online but that sub along with a custom box should come in under $400. 

So I went over to Audio 2000 today and was given a quote of $580 after tax for a DD 12in and box. However my concern and I brought it up multiple times was that the box would take up the entire back portion of the trunk and stick out roughly 13in. I asked if they could make a smaller skinnier box that is ported on one end. I was told that they would need that much room to make it sound good. ............

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7 hours ago, Warpshift said:

So I went over to Audio 2000 today and was given a quote of $580 after tax for a DD 12in and box. However my concern and I brought it up multiple times was that the box would take up the entire back portion of the trunk and stick out roughly 13in. I asked if they could make a smaller skinnier box that is ported on one end. I was told that they would need that much room to make it sound good. ............

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-rss315ho-44-12-reference-ho-dvc-subwoofer--295-467

you can go as small as half a cubic foot with a sealed box with this sub and still sound great definitely a much better deal than the DD. That particular DD he mentioned is more suited for a sealed box or 4th order than a ported, the EBP is at at the mid 30s....   The dayton I recommended can work in either ported or sealed just fine with an EBP of 52(anything above 60 is literally ported/6th orders only and anything under 45 is suited for sealed/4th orders only, The dayton very similar to a JL w3/w6 in performance which costs several times more..


09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS......Mids/Highs two pioneer gm 8604 bridged, one at 4 ohms bridged one at 2 ohms bridged, one ppi 600.2 for tweets.

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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