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I see that a lot of you like Sundown subs and I am curious about a specific model. I have a Punch P3 dual 4ohm 10 and it sounds great... Would you say that a 10" SA-10 Rev-3 dual 4 ohm is better sub for sub? Why or why not? Would it be good for accurate sound or is it a bass-head sub... or both?

 

I have ultimately decided to add a second 10" to my bottom end and I like the Punch, but........

The more I pay attention to what I am listening to and the way I listen to all the different types of music the more I realize that I need more than one 10 and they need to be snappy, punchy little punks but need to be able to move my nose hairs violently from time to time.

 

I am pretty sure that two 10" punch P3's will do this at 1ohm with approx. 1500w. Would the SA-10's do it better with that same power?


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

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First one

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As in... accurate?


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

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Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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On a 1500w amp I would do the Sundown E's instead.


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On a 1500w amp I would do the Sundown E's instead.

 

The E's are ugly lol.


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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I will vouch for the E's. Fantastic subs for the price and will perform great on that power. Had 2 of them ported and it sounded good and got loud. Brother in law has them now and loves them.


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I will vouch for the E's. Fantastic subs for the price and will perform great on that power. Had 2 of them ported and it sounded good and got loud. Brother in law has them now and loves them.

 

So, better than the Punch P3's?


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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XFL 10s get down really nasty when needed,and sound pretty nice at most low levels in a decently ported enclosure.My go to subs mainly


2)American Bass VFL Mini Hybrid 4480.1D@1ohm Ea 4)American Bass XFL DVC 4ohm 12s@2.06cu Ft Ea.@32htz CDT 6,5 HD6 Briax.,CDT CL60,CDT 25 tweets,Kicker KS25 tweets Autotek Mean Machine 99@2ohms,Autotek BTX 7204@40hms AlterStarts Alt 255A/Dallas,Tx,2)Orileys Super Start AGM batts(1more coming)Cadence CCA 0ga on Big 6,AudioTechnix 0ga CCA Kicker Kq9 Eq,Eclipse CD3000(lookingfor upgrade)StingerPro Distro,3)XS Scorpian 8in Scroll Fans 1998 3dr Xcab Chevy(under construction,but operational)

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The E's are ugly lol.

 

Only women care about aesthetics. When its in the box they look the same.


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Only women care about aesthetics. When its in the box they look the same.

 

:O lol I know, I was being facetious.


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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XFL 10s get down really nasty when needed,and sound pretty nice at most low levels in a decently ported enclosure.My go to subs mainly

 

Throw a pair in 4.0@32 Htz on a decent 2-3k amp.They do very nice for the money


2)American Bass VFL Mini Hybrid 4480.1D@1ohm Ea 4)American Bass XFL DVC 4ohm 12s@2.06cu Ft Ea.@32htz CDT 6,5 HD6 Briax.,CDT CL60,CDT 25 tweets,Kicker KS25 tweets Autotek Mean Machine 99@2ohms,Autotek BTX 7204@40hms AlterStarts Alt 255A/Dallas,Tx,2)Orileys Super Start AGM batts(1more coming)Cadence CCA 0ga on Big 6,AudioTechnix 0ga CCA Kicker Kq9 Eq,Eclipse CD3000(lookingfor upgrade)StingerPro Distro,3)XS Scorpian 8in Scroll Fans 1998 3dr Xcab Chevy(under construction,but operational)

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Throw a pair in 4.0@32 Htz on a decent 2-3k amp.They do very nice for the money

 

That's all above what I am looking for. Box too big... power too beaucoup.


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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My sundown e10s do low 140s on an orion 1500.

 

I just read they can do 2" peak to peak... that's impressive. Ok, ok... Smaller box, less power needed... starting to look like a good idea.


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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That's all above what I am looking for. Box too big... power too beaucoup.

 

You may consider a pair of Dayton HO 10s.Mine do well in 2.0@35Htz on approx. 1100


2)American Bass VFL Mini Hybrid 4480.1D@1ohm Ea 4)American Bass XFL DVC 4ohm 12s@2.06cu Ft Ea.@32htz CDT 6,5 HD6 Briax.,CDT CL60,CDT 25 tweets,Kicker KS25 tweets Autotek Mean Machine 99@2ohms,Autotek BTX 7204@40hms AlterStarts Alt 255A/Dallas,Tx,2)Orileys Super Start AGM batts(1more coming)Cadence CCA 0ga on Big 6,AudioTechnix 0ga CCA Kicker Kq9 Eq,Eclipse CD3000(lookingfor upgrade)StingerPro Distro,3)XS Scorpian 8in Scroll Fans 1998 3dr Xcab Chevy(under construction,but operational)

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You may consider a pair of Dayton HO 10s.Mine do well in 2.0@35Htz on approx. 1100

 

 

These Sub's? If so, they sure are purdy... I like the minimalistic all black look. Great specs too.


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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I just read they can do 2" peak to peak... that's impressive. Ok, ok... Smaller box, less power needed... starting to look like a good idea.

 

You have it wrong- its actually big box less power.


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You have it wrong- its actually big box less power.

 

Sundown suggest 1c.u.ft ported for the 10" that's tiny.


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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Sundown suggest 1c.u.ft ported for the 10" that's tiny.

 

No that's about average for a 10. My e10s are in 4.2cf. I wouldn't recommend it for daily listening though. Stick to the smaller box for what you're going to do.


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No that's about average for a 10. My e10s are in 4.2cf. I wouldn't recommend it for daily listening though. Stick to the smaller box for what you're going to do.

 

I understand what you are saying. I built an almost 6 cubic foot box tuned to about 27hz for my JBL 12's and it hit loud and low but that was about it. I am hoping to go the other direction this time.


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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So, better than the Punch P3's?

 

I don't have experience with the P3's but had a pair of P2's over 10 years ago. I like RF products but I think the E's will be a better choice. I also like the Dayton HO suggestion. It was between those and the IDQ and I went with IDQ because I got it for the same price and always wanted to run ID.


2009 Ford F150 Supercrew

 

JVC 830BT

ID CXS64 comps

Diamond Audio D5 600.2

IDQv4 10 x2 sealed

JBL GTR-1001

Knu, Tsunami, Stinger, RF wiring etc

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I don't have experience with the P3's but had a pair of P2's over 10 years ago. I like RF products but I think the E's will be a better choice. I also like the Dayton HO suggestion. It was between those and the IDQ and I went with IDQ because I got it for the same price and always wanted to run ID.

 

I ran a P2D4 12" off the same amp I am running my P3D4 10" off of and let me say this... it is slightly louder than the 12 but does not go as low. I love RF stuff but I am not above trying other stuff. I will always have at least one piece of Rockford Fosgate in whatever system I build. It just so happens the next one will have the 3sixty.3 sitting behind me in it. I think right now it's a toss up between the E's and that Dayton HO.


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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I ran a P2D4 12" off the same amp I am running my P3D4 10" off of and let me say this... it is slightly louder than the 12 but does not go as low. I love RF stuff but I am not above trying other stuff. I will always have at least one piece of Rockford Fosgate in whatever system I build. It just so happens the next one will have the 3sixty.3 sitting behind me in it. I think right now it's a toss up between the E's and that Dayton HO.

 

Just an option, you could go with Daytons now and when the yardsale is back grab some E's for cheap and try em out.


2009 Ford F150 Supercrew

 

JVC 830BT

ID CXS64 comps

Diamond Audio D5 600.2

IDQv4 10 x2 sealed

JBL GTR-1001

Knu, Tsunami, Stinger, RF wiring etc

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These Sub's? If so, they sure are purdy... I like the minimalistic all black look. Great specs too.

 

Yes,and they come with a 5 YEAR WARRANTY of which no other sub woofer on the market has.


2)American Bass VFL Mini Hybrid 4480.1D@1ohm Ea 4)American Bass XFL DVC 4ohm 12s@2.06cu Ft Ea.@32htz CDT 6,5 HD6 Briax.,CDT CL60,CDT 25 tweets,Kicker KS25 tweets Autotek Mean Machine 99@2ohms,Autotek BTX 7204@40hms AlterStarts Alt 255A/Dallas,Tx,2)Orileys Super Start AGM batts(1more coming)Cadence CCA 0ga on Big 6,AudioTechnix 0ga CCA Kicker Kq9 Eq,Eclipse CD3000(lookingfor upgrade)StingerPro Distro,3)XS Scorpian 8in Scroll Fans 1998 3dr Xcab Chevy(under construction,but operational)

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Ok so I played around in WinISD with the Dayton Audio 10" and if I am reading these right, specifically the 6th order enclosure, this sub should be able to cover all the sub frequencies I would need it too right? The DSP should have no issues equalizing 2.5db in the middle right? That looks pretty flat to me and a "3 cubic foot" enclosure should be able to fit most trunks or cargo areas if designed correctly. I hope the pic is readable... I did a ported, 4th order and 6th order. How would you guys interpret this image?

 

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HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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