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Any thoughts on these components? Has anyone used them with a DSP and running active? Has anyone just plain used them at all? I visited a local shop near me and the guy said he has two sets, brand new, just sitting in the back... apparently people think they cost too much at a little over $300 a set (His sale price). I inspected them, held them, the tweeters and mid-woofers. They seem to be very sturdy, good quality speakers. I like the power handling specs and the tweeter size and material (28mm silk domes). What are your impressions of them?

 

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If you are going active why are you paying for a crossover?

I doubt they are worth $300. The Blacks are SB Acoustic drivers with a huge markup.


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If you are going active why are you paying for a crossover?

I doubt they are worth $300. The Blacks are SB Acoustic drivers with a huge markup.

 

I just checked them out... still hunting speakers for the G6. You guys are around this everyday, figured you all would know best. :)


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Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

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Those speakers in the picture are not SB Acoustics speakers or at least the SB17NRXC35-4 variant I have. The NVX/SB Acoustics SB17NRXC35-4 mid bass speakers are good sounding mid woofers with nice detail, but if you want lots of midbass than these are not for you. My Polk db6501 mid woofers I swapped these out for would murder these in mid bass, but these have a smoother, more detailed sound.


2014 Sienna 2-way active SQ system. SB Acoustics SB29RDCN Tweeters. Focal PS165V mid woofers. Pioneer D9500F 75 watts RMS x 4. Pioneer BHS 5800 HU. AudioControl EQX. 10” Alpine SWS sub in custom ported box tuned to 35 hz on JBL GTX 500.

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2014 CX5 3-way active SQ system. Pioneer 1330 NIX HU. Dayton AMT tweeters. Celestion AN2775 2-3/4 midrange. NVX XSP65 mid woofers. Pioneer PRS D4200F 75 WPC x 4. Infinity K1000. JL Audio Twk 88 DSP. Sundown SA 12” 2 cube/33Hz.

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Those speakers in the picture are not SB Acoustics speakers or at least the SB17NRXC35-4 variant I have. The NVX/SB Acoustics SB17NRXC35-4 mid bass speakers are good sounding mid woofers with nice detail, but if you want lots of midbass than these are not for you. My Polk db6501 mid woofers I swapped these out for would murder these in mid bass, but these have a smoother, more detailed sound.

 

Read what I said again. Slower


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Read what I said again. Slower

 

You lost me there?


2014 Sienna 2-way active SQ system. SB Acoustics SB29RDCN Tweeters. Focal PS165V mid woofers. Pioneer D9500F 75 watts RMS x 4. Pioneer BHS 5800 HU. AudioControl EQX. 10” Alpine SWS sub in custom ported box tuned to 35 hz on JBL GTX 500.

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2014 CX5 3-way active SQ system. Pioneer 1330 NIX HU. Dayton AMT tweeters. Celestion AN2775 2-3/4 midrange. NVX XSP65 mid woofers. Pioneer PRS D4200F 75 WPC x 4. Infinity K1000. JL Audio Twk 88 DSP. Sundown SA 12” 2 cube/33Hz.

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meh heard them live, the tweeters are good, the mid is less than stellar. Gladden components completely destroy this set.


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I looked at a few Gladen sets on ebay. Other than them being German, I don't really know anything about them. Looked cool though.


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Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

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https://www.woofersetc.com/p-9607-mlk165-hertz-65-2-way-mille-series-component-system.html

 

I have a used, mint set of these hertz mille components if you're interested. I also have a brand new set of audison voce av k6.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Audison-Voce-Component-System-Loudspeaker/dp/B00EO1RKDQ


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If I was starting over right now I’d get a set from Steg.

Active set if I was going active.


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If you are going to order ORCA order it from overseas. We get a huge markup

Gladen, Mosconi, Focal


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https://www.woofersetc.com/p-9607-mlk165-hertz-65-2-way-mille-series-component-system.html

 

I have a used, mint set of these hertz mille components if you're interested. I also have a brand new set of audison voce av k6.

 

https://www.amazon.com/Audison-Voce-Component-System-Loudspeaker/dp/B00EO1RKDQ

 

I am just window shopping at the moment until I get the Pontiac home.


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Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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I am just window shopping at the moment until I get the Pontiac home.

 

the world finalist SQ cars i've heard use scanspeak relevators and illuminators but those are out of your budget. Sb acoustics satori series are also out of your budget. Seas prestige is also good but their higher end line is ridiculous pricing. Audiofrog is up there too.

 

I'd say save up and really go into the beryllium tweeters route and quality mids. You are completely wasting money by buying sh*tty overpriced component sets with weak drivers. Literally just paying for overpriced crossovers you are just going to toss in the trash.


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Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS................................Mids/Highs amp: CT 500.2, ppi 600.2, ppi 900.4 bridged

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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the world finalist SQ cars i've heard use scanspeak relevators and illuminators but those are out of your budget. Sb acoustics satori series are also out of your budget. Seas prestige is also good but their higher end line is ridiculous pricing. Audiofrog is up there too.

 

I'd say save up and really go into the beryllium tweeters route and quality mids. You are completely wasting money by buying sh*tty overpriced component sets with weak drivers. Literally just paying for overpriced crossovers you are just going to toss in the trash.

 

I looked at the pricing on the Scanspeak Revelators and SB Acoustics Satori speakers... I don't see how the majority of those speakers are out of my budget. Specifically these (6½" SATORI MW16PNW-4). Are these what you are saying I should run if I want good sound?


HU - eXcelon KDC-X998

Components - eXcelon XR-1700P - front

Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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dbl post.


09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS................................Mids/Highs amp: CT 500.2, ppi 600.2, ppi 900.4 bridged

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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I looked at the pricing on the Scanspeak Revelators and SB Acoustics Satori speakers... I don't see how the majority of those speakers are out of my budget. Specifically these (6½" SATORI MW16PNW-4). Are these what you are saying I should run if I want good sound?

 

yes thats the budget line of the bunch listed. Made of quality materials with the cone and a strong neo motor with paired with good engineering behind it. Definitely far superior drivers to the arc components which literally look like cookie cutter stuff. Definitely go with beryllium tweeters though all beryllium setups i've heard sounded magnificent, you will need to either fiberglass some tweeter pods or use PVC pipe end caps. The tweeters are huge. Those mids are 148 each, and tweets will be seperate as well. Vs the 300 you plan on paying, the raw driver setup will costs you 600ish.


09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS................................Mids/Highs amp: CT 500.2, ppi 600.2, ppi 900.4 bridged

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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Beryllium is pretty exotic... and pricey. I am not the biggest fan of metal domes. But hey, one never knows.


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Coaxials - eXcelon KFC-X174 - rear fill

Sub - Single RF Punch P3D4 (@ 2ohms) 10" Labyrinth slot port enclosure

Sub Amp - Punch Prime 1200-D <-- it's a beast.

Full Range Amp - US Acoustics Barbara Ann

150a Alternator - Sky High Cables - Stinger Distribution Blocks - Big 4 upgrade

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Beryllium is pretty exotic... and pricey. I am not the biggest fan of metal domes. But hey, one never knows.

 

the cheap metal domes are sh*tty sounding. The most expensive well made metal domes are far superior to soft domes.


09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS................................Mids/Highs amp: CT 500.2, ppi 600.2, ppi 900.4 bridged

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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Different materials need different installs. 5000 hertz is 5000hz from silk or a tin can


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Take a drive to north Alabama or Orlando. 2 of the best shops in the country for comp winning builds. Give them a budget.


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I think I’m going to bite the bullet and get a steg midbass.

After I get this forum boner amp to stop going thermal. **** A/B amps.


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Different materials need different installs. 5000 hertz is 5000hz from silk or a tin can

 

Well, the truth is different driver materials add coloration or overtones to that 5000 Hz because they resonate. Manufacturers try to get away from this by trying different materials, techniques, and surrounds to damp this out. In instruments, it’s what makes a violin that plays the same note as a piano sound like a violin and a piano sound like a piano. Same goes for mid woofers, where different cone materials add coloration and overtones to the sound they produce. When you hear someone describe a speaker as sounding warm or dry, what they mean is those overtones added to the mix make it sound this way.

 

I know you are aware of this, so don’t take it as an insult, it’s more for anyone who might be watching and not know.


2014 Sienna 2-way active SQ system. SB Acoustics SB29RDCN Tweeters. Focal PS165V mid woofers. Pioneer D9500F 75 watts RMS x 4. Pioneer BHS 5800 HU. AudioControl EQX. 10” Alpine SWS sub in custom ported box tuned to 35 hz on JBL GTX 500.

2014 F-150 XL WT 2-way active budget SQ system. Tang Band 25-302SH 1" tweeters. Dayton Audio ND140-4 mid woofers. Pioneer D8604. JBL Club 5501. JL Audio Twk 88 DSP & FIX 86. Sundown SD3 10” sub ported/ 33Hz 1 cube.

2014 CX5 3-way active SQ system. Pioneer 1330 NIX HU. Dayton AMT tweeters. Celestion AN2775 2-3/4 midrange. NVX XSP65 mid woofers. Pioneer PRS D4200F 75 WPC x 4. Infinity K1000. JL Audio Twk 88 DSP. Sundown SA 12” 2 cube/33Hz.

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Well, the truth is different driver materials add coloration or overtones to that 5000 Hz because they resonate. Manufacturers try to get away from this by trying different materials, techniques, and surrounds to damp this out. In instruments, it’s what makes a violin that plays the same note as a piano sound like a violin and a piano sound like a piano. Same goes for mid woofers, where different cone materials add coloration and overtones to the sound they produce. When you hear someone describe a speaker as sounding warm or dry, what they mean is those overtones added to the mix make it sound this way.

 

I know you are aware of this, so don’t take it as an insult, it’s more for anyone who might be watching and not know.

 

That is the response. Which is controlled by axis and tuning.

People don’t use warm right. Warm is lower midbass


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Alpine SPX Pro ring radiators

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Knuconceptz OFC, Custom fit Soundrive RCAs.

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to achieve the same level of 10khz + output the soft dome cant do it that well at all hence the superiority of berylliums IMO they are WAAAAY more airy naturally. So i guess its a bit of a personal preference on the kind of house curve you want. I dont like the harmon house curve with things dying down up top, I found out what my current preferred curve is called which is the fletcher munson curve. You dont always have to rely on EQ overboosts or overcuts to try to achieve the same sound signature but still having it fall short purely because the tweeter is not capable up top with the soft domes vs the beryllium, its strong up top and you can always lower any part of it down if need to AKA headroom. I always assume it will be on axis installs when it comes to tweeters unless its a super tweeter or a cheaply made titantium/aluminium dome.


09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS................................Mids/Highs amp: CT 500.2, ppi 600.2, ppi 900.4 bridged

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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