Rroark90 2 #21 Posted January 15, 2018 And I’m wanting to do a down firing ported box I have a jeep and I think pointing down would do best in there when I have my top and doors off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hertz Mafia 671 #22 Posted January 15, 2018 (edited) They have more Xmax and a larger voice coil than the SA series Alphard Audio Hannibal FX30D2 12" Subwoofer - gp car audio Larger coil means nothing. That’s alphard has a CCA wire coil? the SA 12 has a high temp 2.5” coil that is lighter then most 3” coil and handles heat better then most 3” coil in its price range. Edited January 15, 2018 by Hertz Mafia Spelling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hertz Mafia 671 #23 Posted January 15, 2018 They have more Xmax and a larger voice coil than the SA series Alphard Audio Hannibal FX30D2 12" Subwoofer - gp car audio Sundown SA Xmax is 33mm and that alphard is 22.5mm xmax Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rroark90 2 #24 Posted January 15, 2018 I think I’m just gonna get the sa’s should sound pretty good with a 2k amp and They will be 4 ohm so if the 2k amp ends up being too much I’ll just wire it to 2 ohm instead of one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hertz Mafia 671 #25 Posted January 15, 2018 I think I’m just gonna get the sa’s should sound pretty good with a 2k amp and They will be 4 ohm so if the 2k amp ends up being too much I’ll just wire it to 2 ohm instead of one D4 ohm woofers wire down to 1ohm... or u can wire to 4ohm... can’t wire to 2ohm... but a 2k amp on two SA 12s will not be to much power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeogo 26 #26 Posted January 15, 2018 they look good., u sure that xmax is 1 way? I'm almost certain that's one way. I had an SA 15 and I promise you this Hannibal moves more. I could be wrong I suppose. Might just be my box. 2008 Mazdaspeed 3 (Under Construction) MIDS AND HIGHS BASS ELECTRICAL 8 Unlawful Sounds 8" Mids 15" B2 XM Team GP 400 Amp alt (coming soon) 8 Unlawful Sounds super tweeters ??? Amps (Undecided but coming soon) . NorthStar Under hood AGM (coming soon) Alphard Audio Machete 80.4 NorthStar SMSAGM80 (coming soon) Alphard Audio Machete 150.4 (coming soon) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeogo 26 #27 Posted January 15, 2018 Sundown SA Xmax is 33mm and that alphard is 22.5mm xmax According to Sundowns website the SA has 19mm xmax, and according to you the alphard has 22.5 2008 Mazdaspeed 3 (Under Construction) MIDS AND HIGHS BASS ELECTRICAL 8 Unlawful Sounds 8" Mids 15" B2 XM Team GP 400 Amp alt (coming soon) 8 Unlawful Sounds super tweeters ??? Amps (Undecided but coming soon) . NorthStar Under hood AGM (coming soon) Alphard Audio Machete 80.4 NorthStar SMSAGM80 (coming soon) Alphard Audio Machete 150.4 (coming soon) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shredder2 326 #28 Posted January 15, 2018 Idk... id put a pair of SA's up against a pair of Hannibals... those SA's are amazing for a 12" mid-lower level sub... and Sundown coils?... nuff' said! JVC KD-X350BTS, RE Sx-18d4 9ft3 36.86hz, Synergy 3K@ 2 ohm, RF 500s, Polk DB comps, Cache Preamp/EQ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boomin_tahoe 1,636 #29 Posted January 15, 2018 Oh yeah...well my X 15's have a 1/4 mile of xmax!! I'd get sa12's, no doubt. 97 4 dr. Tahoe Interstate battery Alpine 9835 (Pioneer DEH-80PRS coming soon) Polk Audio MM6501 comps Wolfram amps coming soon, 3000.1, 125.4 2 Sundown Audio X 15's Tuned @ 30Hz. Knukonceptz/Royal Excelene wiring Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hertz Mafia 671 #30 Posted January 15, 2018 According to Sundowns website the SA has 19mm xmax, and according to you the alphard has 22.5 When designing the SA series we started out with an FEA optimized motor & coil design capable of 19mm of one-way Klippel verified excursion and just over 33mm of x-mech.. 19mm of excursion verified kipple 70% over the Bl curve. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
los33 417 #31 Posted January 15, 2018 they look good., u sure that xmax is 1 way?[emoji23]?[emoji23] i cant but ask what sub has a xmax more then 1 way. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guyver 27 #32 Posted January 15, 2018 What about EMF Low Ballers? They look decent and seem to have no mechanical noise at all. I'm sure they can hang with the Sundown SA. Subwoofers - EMF Audio Lowballer - EMF Car Audio formerly Sundown Only Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOMINGRANDPA 431 #33 Posted January 15, 2018 I think I’m just gonna get the sa’s should sound pretty good with a 2k amp and They will be 4 ohm so if the 2k amp ends up being too much I’ll just wire it to 2 ohm instead of one with 2k after box rise u be right about where sa want to be just don't make box huge which i guess u can't anyway in jeep.. KENWOOD X301 HU, PRECISION POWER Phantom 1000, FU 750 12, 2.1cfad ported, soundqubed 6.5" coax/doors, hp & lp xover on hu, AGM starting batt... Boomin_tahoe said: 2 ohms rule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOMINGRANDPA 431 #34 Posted January 15, 2018 What about EMF Low Ballers? They look decent and seem to have no mechanical noise at all. I'm sure they can hang with the Sundown SA. Subwoofers - EMF Audio Lowballer - EMF Car Audio formerly Sundown Only yeah guys is that basically a cab ultra? KENWOOD X301 HU, PRECISION POWER Phantom 1000, FU 750 12, 2.1cfad ported, soundqubed 6.5" coax/doors, hp & lp xover on hu, AGM starting batt... Boomin_tahoe said: 2 ohms rule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BOOMINGRANDPA 431 #35 Posted January 15, 2018 According to Sundowns website the SA has 19mm xmax, and according to you the alphard has 22.5 33 is both ways alphards could be too unless it says 1 way.. sq hds3 and others show max in and max out that's y it looks like they have 22-33mm xmax.. that could be 1 way basket just doesn't look very deep.. KENWOOD X301 HU, PRECISION POWER Phantom 1000, FU 750 12, 2.1cfad ported, soundqubed 6.5" coax/doors, hp & lp xover on hu, AGM starting batt... Boomin_tahoe said: 2 ohms rule Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dudeogo 26 #36 Posted January 15, 2018 33 is both ways alphards could be too unless it says 1 way.. sq hds3 and others show max in and max out that's y it looks like they have 22-33mm xmax.. that could be 1 way basket just doesn't look very deep.. Look, I may be totally wrong and I'll accept that. All I know is that my Hannibal moves more than my SA 15 did and I'm more impressed by the woofer in general. 2008 Mazdaspeed 3 (Under Construction) MIDS AND HIGHS BASS ELECTRICAL 8 Unlawful Sounds 8" Mids 15" B2 XM Team GP 400 Amp alt (coming soon) 8 Unlawful Sounds super tweeters ??? Amps (Undecided but coming soon) . NorthStar Under hood AGM (coming soon) Alphard Audio Machete 80.4 NorthStar SMSAGM80 (coming soon) Alphard Audio Machete 150.4 (coming soon) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bronx Bomber Z 1 #37 Posted August 30, 2018 I'm running a Wolfram 3K on my 2 FU audio 750 12's now and they have performed beyond expectations. 1 BOOMINGRANDPA reacted to this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
West1 13 #38 Posted September 12, 2018 pair of SA's is my vote. more cone area is always better. Plus SA's can take a beating. I have a pair of SA-15's in a 2nd gen frontier and they get loud (I just want louder). Mechman 270 HO alt XS Power D3400 Duracell G31 FSD 2600 2 SA-15's 2007 Frontier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
audiobaun 1,154 #39 Posted September 20, 2018 On 1/14/2018 at 7:55 PM, Rroark90 said: ?What about 2 xfls 2 XFLs/12s in 4.0 at 32htz on some decent power will tear that Jeep apart if you dont do some deadening.Ive had 2k on a singe 10 and it ate that chit up all day long 2)American Bass VFL Mini Hybrid 4480.1D@1ohm Ea 4)American Bass XFL DVC 4ohm 12s@2.06cu Ft Ea.@32htz CDT 6,5 HD6 Briax.,CDT CL60,CDT 25 tweets,Kicker KS25 tweets Autotek Mean Machine 99@2ohms,Autotek BTX 7204@40hms AlterStarts Alt 255A/Dallas,Tx,2)Orileys Super Start AGM batts(1more coming)Cadence CCA 0ga on Big 6,AudioTechnix 0ga CCA Kicker Kq9 Eq,Eclipse CD3000(lookingfor upgrade)StingerPro Distro,3)XS Scorpian 8in Scroll Fans 1998 3dr Xcab Chevy(under construction,but operational) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Da Bronx Bomber Z 1 #40 Posted October 22, 2018 http://SA12's, XFL12's,FU12.750's all have done very well with clean power. I can name alot others but I seen these named and had to say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites