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Any suggestions? Purchased Hertz ESK 6.5's for the front and DSK 6.5's for the rear. Both components.

 

Im running the front at 120 HZ with -18db/slope

Im running the rear at 100 HZ with -18db slope

 

Subwoofer is being run at 80 Hz, but that sounds fine.

 

Amp is Infinity Kappa K4. I turned everything down to 0, turned HU up to 3/4 volume and tuned from there.

 

I just am not getting crisp sound. Wiring from HU to door is stock.

 

Wiring for amp is high end, good stuff.

 

Wiring for components is a random, cheap 16 gauge.

 

Any thoughts in particular? Running them in a 2016 Tundra. Head Unit is a Kenwood DDX374BT

 

HELP PLEASE BEFORE I TOSS THESE THINGS

 

Im not getting clean, crisp sound at all. Particularly in the mid range. Bass (whatever is left w those crossover levels) sounds like crap!


Vehicle: 2016 Toyota Tundra DC

Front Stage: Hertz ESK 2-Way 6.5"

Rear Stage: Hertz DSK 2-Way 6.5"

Subs: Sundown Audio SD-2 Dual 4 Ohm 8"

Amp #1: Infiniti Kappa K4

Amp #2: Alpine MRV-M500

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n/m

 

Sounds like tuning issues. Takes time to do.


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I haven't heard them in person but I also haven't heard anyone say a single good thing about the esk's. Also I dont know if its as common on the lower models but hertz is a heavily counterfeit speaker.

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ESKs certainly arent a great set, but they are a good set.

120 is higher than id cross them, and -18 more sharp than id slope them.

 

Are your doors treated?


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Any suggestions? Purchased Hertz ESK 6.5's for the front and DSK 6.5's for the rear. Both components.

 

Im running the front at 120 HZ with -18db/slope

Im running the rear at 100 HZ with -18db slope

 

Subwoofer is being run at 80 Hz, but that sounds fine.

 

Amp is Infinity Kappa K4. I turned everything down to 0, turned HU up to 3/4 volume and tuned from there.

 

I just am not getting crisp sound. Wiring from HU to door is stock.

 

Wiring for amp is high end, good stuff.

 

Wiring for components is a random, cheap 16 gauge.

 

Any thoughts in particular? Running them in a 2016 Tundra. Head Unit is a Kenwood DDX374BT

 

HELP PLEASE BEFORE I TOSS THESE THINGS

 

Im not getting clean, crisp sound at all. Particularly in the mid range. Bass (whatever is left w those crossover levels) sounds like crap!

 

so first thing, kenwood head units are a lot more mellow than pioneer which is very bright in your face midrange and sibilance in comparison, kenwood has a more mellowed out sound signature.

 

2nd, you need to show us your EQ curve, you might need to continually raise the gain and lower other EQ bands(besides the one that does what you need till you have a more flat sound.


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Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS......Mids/Highs two pioneer gm 8604 bridged, one at 4 ohms bridged one at 2 ohms bridged, one ppi 600.2 for tweets.

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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so first thing, kenwood head units are a lot more mellow than pioneer which is very bright in your face midrange and sibilance in comparison, kenwood has a more mellowed out sound signature.

 

2nd, you need to show us your EQ curve, you might need to continually raise the gain and lower other EQ bands(besides the one that does what you need till you have a more flat sound.

 

Current settings are as such. The crossovers are the only thing I have set for a reason. Everything else (gain, tw freq, etc) are all done just to tune to my ear. I truly just think these speakers aren't good enough for what im looking for

 

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Vehicle: 2016 Toyota Tundra DC

Front Stage: Hertz ESK 2-Way 6.5"

Rear Stage: Hertz DSK 2-Way 6.5"

Subs: Sundown Audio SD-2 Dual 4 Ohm 8"

Amp #1: Infiniti Kappa K4

Amp #2: Alpine MRV-M500

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Current settings are as such. The crossovers are the only thing I have set for a reason. Everything else (gain, tw freq, etc) are all done just to tune to my ear. I truly just think these speakers aren't good enough for what im looking for

 

 

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dude no wonder you arent getting any crisp sound, you literally cut off all the frequencies that matter when it comes to crisp sound. Your EQ definitely needs proper work.


09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS......Mids/Highs two pioneer gm 8604 bridged, one at 4 ohms bridged one at 2 ohms bridged, one ppi 600.2 for tweets.

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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dude no wonder you arent getting any crisp sound, you literally cut off all the frequencies that matter when it comes to crisp sound. Your EQ definitely needs proper work.

 

Any chance you're willing to help? There isnt anyone local that can give me pointers. If you're willing to help via email or text, let me know. I'd happily paypal you some cash. I want to get this fixed.


Vehicle: 2016 Toyota Tundra DC

Front Stage: Hertz ESK 2-Way 6.5"

Rear Stage: Hertz DSK 2-Way 6.5"

Subs: Sundown Audio SD-2 Dual 4 Ohm 8"

Amp #1: Infiniti Kappa K4

Amp #2: Alpine MRV-M500

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Those esk sound really nice with proper tuning. You also might have a really weak signal to your amp


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Those esk sound really nice with proper tuning. You also might have a really weak signal to your amp

 

How would I know this or what can I do to fix it?


Vehicle: 2016 Toyota Tundra DC

Front Stage: Hertz ESK 2-Way 6.5"

Rear Stage: Hertz DSK 2-Way 6.5"

Subs: Sundown Audio SD-2 Dual 4 Ohm 8"

Amp #1: Infiniti Kappa K4

Amp #2: Alpine MRV-M500

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Any chance you're willing to help? There isnt anyone local that can give me pointers. If you're willing to help via email or text, let me know. I'd happily paypal you some cash. I want to get this fixed.

 

start by putting your 2.5khz to 16khz back up to zero... find out what each one does by lowering or raising a lot. Typically the 10khz to 16khz dont ever need to get cut.

 

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09 Sienna Subs : Four Team Ascendant 18s......Sub amp: Two Taramps 15k

Headunit: Pioneer 80PRS......Mids/Highs two pioneer gm 8604 bridged, one at 4 ohms bridged one at 2 ohms bridged, one ppi 600.2 for tweets.

Front stage: Two PWX 10s per door midbass only....... PRV 6MR500 midrange....... Massive CT 2 german tweeters.

320 amp Singer alt....... 1 group 34 under the hood 6 group31 agms in the back 560 amp hours total.

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start by putting your 2.5khz to 16khz back up to zero... find out what each one does by lowering or raising a lot. Typically the 10khz to 16khz dont ever need to get cut.

 

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I was getting blasted by my tweeters, so thats the reason I had them that low. Im certainly willing to try it again.


Vehicle: 2016 Toyota Tundra DC

Front Stage: Hertz ESK 2-Way 6.5"

Rear Stage: Hertz DSK 2-Way 6.5"

Subs: Sundown Audio SD-2 Dual 4 Ohm 8"

Amp #1: Infiniti Kappa K4

Amp #2: Alpine MRV-M500

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And its not just that my mids aren't there because of the settings.....theyre crackly and sloppy even at the settings I currently have. I feel like If I turn those up, it'll just get worse?


Vehicle: 2016 Toyota Tundra DC

Front Stage: Hertz ESK 2-Way 6.5"

Rear Stage: Hertz DSK 2-Way 6.5"

Subs: Sundown Audio SD-2 Dual 4 Ohm 8"

Amp #1: Infiniti Kappa K4

Amp #2: Alpine MRV-M500

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I also have my amp set to HPF on the fronts and rears and im tuned at that also. The more I read, should I set the amp to the Full setting since im tuning from the HU?


Vehicle: 2016 Toyota Tundra DC

Front Stage: Hertz ESK 2-Way 6.5"

Rear Stage: Hertz DSK 2-Way 6.5"

Subs: Sundown Audio SD-2 Dual 4 Ohm 8"

Amp #1: Infiniti Kappa K4

Amp #2: Alpine MRV-M500

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I also have my amp set to HPF on the fronts and rears and im tuned at that also. The more I read, should I set the amp to the Full setting since im tuning from the HU?

 

Yes to that question. No need to have the amplifier filters on when you have those set from the HU. Also check your speakers phase to make sure they’re all the same. I use AudioControls Mobile Tools App for this because it’s easy, reliable, and takes into account the whole food chain in the speaker wiring. It’s amazing the difference in sound when just one speaker is out of phase with the rest.


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2014 F-150 XL WT 2-way active budget SQ system. Tang Band 25-302SH 1" tweeters. Dayton Audio ND140-4 mid woofers. Pioneer D8604. JBL Club 5501. JL Audio Twk 88 DSP & FIX 86. Sundown SD3 10” sub ported/ 33Hz 1 cube.

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Hopefully Jeff can help ya out. He's done so clear across the US in text form lol. He knows what to do....I'd trust him.


97 4 dr. Tahoe

Interstate battery

Alpine 9835

Polk Audio MM6501 comps

Wolfram amps coming soon, 3000.1, 125.4

2 Sundown Audio X 15's Tuned @ 30Hz.

Knukonceptz/Royal Excelene wiring

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Are you using any hardware crossovers?

 

Also are the tweeters wired parallel to the mids or have sperate channels?

 

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