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how big of a difference between the mix and normal old ipod? like output wise

 

Between the two, it's an unfair fight. I forget the actual total amount of stacked gain that's possible on that particular unit, but probably in the 20dB+ range. You'll have a powerful, clean signal feeding that ****** amp you got with plenty of headroom to spare.

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Just saw this. I haven't bought the receiver yet. So I'm still open to options. I'd like something with a remote control though as I'll use it for TV too and I don't want to have to get out of bed all of the time to adjust the volume.

 

Right now its just coming out of the preouts of the TV, nothing special. Its enough volume for my room for sure. If the Denon outs are just a little stronger than the TV, I think I'll be satisfied. But, I'm still looking into preouts and EQs as well...

 

Check the specs on the Denon and see if the outs are constant voltage or variable (go up n down with the main volume). You'd be surprised how many are constant. And constantly low at that.

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if anyone ever questions these amps DO NOT HEISATE. just got a xls 2500 and 2 jbl jrx 115s for 420$ amp is AMAZING!@! just had to put that out there lol 8 ohm bridge it just about poped my tc9 15

 

****, I would easily shell out that cash, and add several hundred to obtain those three items. Hawt **** nice score dude.

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do you know the output voltage of the mixer you posted? couldnt find that spec. but really 20 + db?!?! i may pick one up black friday even tho i should really be saving for a car!. so question it goes ipod - mixer - amp correct? like standard rca to 3.5mm (ipod cord) rca to rca from mixer? you have the specific mixer you posted?

 

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i also just got a xls 1000 :) preatty good deal on that 225$ basically new delivered to my house og box and recipt ;)

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Check the specs on the Denon and see if the outs are constant voltage or variable (go up n down with the main volume). You'd be surprised how many are constant. And constantly low at that.

 

What are some cheap preamps to look at?

 

I was thinking about maybe an Audiosource EQ200....granted the preouts are pretty strong, it's a win win


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do you know the output voltage of the mixer you posted? couldnt find that spec. but really 20 + db?!?! i may pick one up black friday even tho i should really be saving for a car!. so question it goes ipod - mixer - amp correct? like standard rca to 3.5mm (ipod cord) rca to rca from mixer? you have the specific mixer you posted?

 

Yeah, I have that particular model and couple others. No, don't know the output voltage but would think it would be variable from 0v on up depending on input and gains. From the manual regarding gain potential: Unbalanced (RCA) +16dBV, Balanced (XLR) +22dBV.

 

There's a charging iPod dock that you can even upload your mixing sessions into, so if you're running an iPod, just dock it. Other devices can use the 3.5mm-RCA input option. There's countless routing options depending on gear, but yeah, the most direct route is: audio source into the mixer, mixer (XLR or RCA outs) to amp inputs (Crown XLS amps have both RCA and XLR inputs), amp to speakers, your *** to court for disturbing the peace.

 

It's not the "end-all, be-all" pre-amp option or anything like that but for the $$ it does everything I've ever asked of it and more. I've ran three other mixers and several EQ's and crossovers in the same setup and I prefer that iM9 unit over everything else.

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What are some cheap preamps to look at?

 

I was thinking about maybe an Audiosource EQ200....granted the preouts are pretty strong, it's a win win

 

I looked but didn't see any gain available from that Audio Source unit other than the +/- 12dB/octave sliders. Looks like a nice EQ though. There's a lot of decent name brand options in the $100 - $120 range. I'd just recommend staying away from Nady, Behringer, and other bottom-dollar brands. I'm not hating on Behringer. I really tried to like them, but after going through about 6-7 different analog and digital/parametric EQ's, crossovers, and compressors/limiters, I gave up. The sound was always crappy no matter what. I love pretty much everything from dbx and bbe, but they're a big jump in price.

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I looked but didn't see any gain available from that Audio Source unit other than the +/- 12dB/octave sliders. Looks like a nice EQ though. There's a lot of decent name brand options in the $100 - $120 range. I'd just recommend staying away from Nady, Behringer, and other bottom-dollar brands. I'm not hating on Behringer. I really tried to like them, but after going through about 6-7 different analog and digital/parametric EQ's, crossovers, and compressors/limiters, I gave up. The sound was always crappy no matter what. I love pretty much everything from dbx and bbe, but they're a big jump in price.

 

Something like this? http://www.bbesound.com/products/sonic-maximizers/482i.aspx

 

Or even this: http://www.bbesound.com/products/sonic-maximizers/vg360.aspx


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whats your thoughts on a dm1200? i just want the amps to be as loud as possible. im not into mixing. using it to just play music off my ipod.. i dont know too much about home audio or djing :O

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Close. These, actually...

 

BBE 382iSW Stereo Sonic Maximizer With Subwoofer Output | Musician's Friend

 

dbx DriveRack PA+ Complete Loudspeaker Management System | Musician's Friend

 

I ended up getting the BBE 382iSW for $158 shipped new from an eBay store, which was a slammin deal. My buddy runs the dbx. It's great but too much $$ for me. The 382iSW has an integrated 18dB/oct crossover filter, which is/was great for using other amps without onboard crossovers. Best of all, the dipsh*ts insisted that I returned it and refunded my payment even after I told them twice otherwise.

 

That Aphex is a nice interface for sure. I was looking at similar units a while ago but couldn't find anything decent for a justifiable price, considering $270 was the most I paid for either of my Crowns and the XTi1000 was new from MF. What did you pay, if you don't mind me asking? If there's a deal to be had, I might pick one up. Thnx!

 

Dutch - If you can get that DM1200 or any other mixer for a good price, it should meet your needs as long as it has decent +gain available. I can set you up with my Soundcraft Notepad 102 mixer for about $60 shipped. It's in excellent condition with only a couple hours use. I used it for a short time until I got the iM9. I may still even have the original box and manual. Here's a link...

 

Soundcraft - [Products]

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That Aphex is a nice interface for sure. I was looking at similar units a while ago but couldn't find anything decent for a justifiable price, considering $270 was the most I paid for either of my Crowns and the XTi1000 was new from MF. What did you pay, if you don't mind me asking? If there's a deal to be had, I might pick one up. Thnx!

 

I only paid 50 bucks on eBay :suave:


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i use bbe maximizer on my dj set up and love it. cleans up the mains for sure. also helps with the sub amp as well. we run laptop to behringer mixer via 1/8 to dual 1/4 from that to bbe then from that to behringer eq and from that to nady amps. mains are cerwin vega int252 dual 15" cabs and sub is an os cerwin vega folded horn. folded horn is way to go on the sub stage for sure. check out guitarcenter.com for deals .......hint...they have a nice used sale section. got my bbe for $35 and my folded horn cerwin vega 18 for $200 shipped. you can also buy a replacement warranty from guitar center on used gear ;)


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hard to beat this eq....i have two as im building another set up so we can hire on help as we are having to turn down a good bit of gigs. we will have 71 gigs this year and this was started as a hobby/side business for me and a friend as we both have careers.

 

has sub out and adjustable xover on it which i liked.

 

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Besides the price, the only thing I liked about my FBQ3102 was the sub out. I still have it and would let it go for a good price if anyone's interested. Hell, all my remaining Behringer stuff is now officially on my own Pre-Black Friday Sale! PM for models and prices. Lol

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I cannot freaking believe the difference this Aphex 124a made in my sound. Way more than I expected. It REALLY woke my Crown amp up. The sound is not only alot louder but sooooo much cleaner.


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I cannot freaking believe the difference this Aphex 124a made in my sound. Way more than I expected. It REALLY woke my Crown amp up. The sound is not only alot louder but sooooo much cleaner.

 

That's awesome Bro! You melt any woofers yet? You don't have to, but it's bad*ss to know you can with just a twist of the dial.

 

Yeah, you're right, those units are all over eBay for $40-$50 used and for that price I'll have to pick one up just to try out. Are you wired through the RCA or XLR ins/outs? IIRC they can do balanced through the RCA's.

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That's awesome Bro! You melt any woofers yet? You don't have to, but it's bad*ss to know you can with just a twist of the dial.

 

Yeah, you're right, those units are all over eBay for $40-$50 used and for that price I'll have to pick one up just to try out. Are you wired through the RCA or XLR ins/outs? IIRC they can do balanced through the RCA's.

 

If I hadnt thrown away all of my audio stuff just before buying this, I would have fried that Kicker Comp I had in my closet.

 

I'm running RCA into the Aphex and XLR out. I'm actually listening to it now. Amp gains are at 2 notches above zero and its great listening volume.


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