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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jimi77" data-source="post: 8834070" data-attributes="member: 673702">Moat???  More like one of the Great Lakes, perhaps the Atlantic Ocean.I'd say the issue at this point is that both parties have taken complete leave of logic and facts.We have the wokesters who believe "identifying" as a woman indeed makes one a woman to the point that men who believe they are women should compete with real women in athletics.  OTOH, neoconservatives have turned "stolen election" into not just a plank but the entire GOP platform without any evidence the election was stolen.  Furthermore, the GOP wants to crack down on crime unless of course it's a loophole that allows criminals to circumvent background checks or basically anything do with guns.</blockquote>