Will weed be legal in nevada?

[*Ace* 10+ year member]

my oh my what a long thread we have: //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smokin.gif.f1dc8d2acb1809e863ebd6a47eaa0d45.gif


btw, probation sucks! so stay outta trouble if ya got the green!

I definitly wasn't expecting it to get this long when I started it. Does anyone have any figures on what the people are assumed to vote for? You know how right before elections that have polls that show who the favorite is. Well something like that.

 

[AVSTANG02]

since when can the "people" vote on something like this?

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

since when can the "people" vote on something like this?

Since Nevada put it to election...

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Marijuana has no carcinogens in it. If you smoke it, you will inhale them, but that goes with anything that you burn and then inhale the resulting smoke. If you were to EAT marijuana, you would get no carcinogens. I suggest you list a source of your information.

MYTH: MARIJUANA IS MORE DAMAGING TO THE LUNGS THAN TOBACCO. Marijuana smokers are at a high risk of developing lung cancer, bronchitis, and emphysema.
FACT: Moderate smoking of marijuana appears to pose minimal danger to the lungs. Like tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens. But marijuana users typically smoke much less often than tobacco smokers, and over time, inhale much less smoke. As a result, the risk of serious lung damage should be lower in marijuana smokers. There have been no reports of lung cancer related solely to marijuana, and in a large study presented to the American Thoracic Society in 2006, even heavy users of smoked marijuana were found not to have any increased risk of lung cancer. Unlike heavy tobacco smokers, heavy marijuana smokers exhibit no obstruction of the lung's small airway. That indicates that people will not develop emphysema from smoking marijuana.

http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

"Marijuana Can Cause Cancer."

Or Marijuana Prohibition May Cause Politicized Science And Bad Journalism.

An Article and An Abstract of the Report.

See

Marijuana Prohibition, Media Criticism, Copyrights and the 8th and 9th Commandments.

and links

December 17, 1999

Smoking Marijuana Can Cause Cancer, Study Finds.

(Marijuananews note: Reuters can do better. This is really garbage.)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Smoking marijuana can cause cancer, California researchers said Friday, and aging baby boomers who have been indulging since the swinging 60s may just be starting to feel its ravages.

(Marijuananews note: The author of that sentence should go to work for the Czar. Maybe he already does.)

The report, by Dr. Zuo-Feng Zhang of the Jonsson Cancer Center at the University of California Los Angeles, adds to evidence that smoking cannabis can have cancer-causing effects similar to those linked to cigarette smoking.

"Many people may think marijuana is harmless, but it's not,'' Zhang said in a statement.

(Marijuananews note: Party line straw man argument.)

See

Is marijuana really harmless, like everyone has been saying?

"The carcinogens in marijuana are much stronger than those in tobacco. The big message here is that marijuana, like tobacco, can cause cancer.''

(Marijuananews note: First, there is no way that the conclusion that "The carcinogens in marijuana are much stronger than those in tobacco" can be drawn from an epidemiological review. There is simply no data on that in this sort of study. It may help him get another NIDA grant, however. NIDA funds 85% of the "research" on marijuana. The study did not give them their money’s worth, but the media interviews are the payoff. This is a common practice.

Second, this directly contradicts the abstract below, which says that "the carcinogenic properties of marijuana smoke are similar to those of tobacco." That is true except for the fact that tobacco contains nicotine which is highly toxic and may indirectly contribute to cancer because it is a vasoconstrictor and consequently reduces blood flow to tissues.

There is no evidence that cannabinoids cause cancer.

Consequently, the most that can be said about this study is that long-term heavy smoking of illegal marijuana – which may have been contaminated by government herbicides, or anything else that might be found in contraband, may -- or may not -- cause cancer.

I would not be surprised if there is some cancer risk in very long-term heavy smoking of marijuana, especially contraband of unknown origin. Such a conclusion would not support marijuana prohibition, on the contrary, nor would it limit the medical use of marijuana.

This risk is an argument for the use of vaporizers, but their existence cannot be acknowledged. It is not an argument for arresting marijuana users, but that cannot be acknowledged either.)

http://www.marijuananews.com/marijuananews/cowan/marijuana_can_cause_cancer.htm

We know that there are as many or more carcinogens and co-carcinogens in marijuana smoke as in cigarettes,” researcher Donald Tashkin, MD, of UCLA’s David Geffen School of Medicine tells WebMD. “But we did not find any evidence for an increase in cancer risk for even heavy marijuana smoking.” Carcinogens are substances that cause cancer.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196678,00.html

Less to similar ammounts to tobbaco...minus nicotien which is a suverely toxic co-carcinogen

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

I absolutely love how more and more positives of marijuana are becoming straight up scientifically proven to be fact. And all the old myths that that went something like "well, we did a test to a bunch of monkeys that may or may not have been sick before we tested them" and were taken as fact because government said so are being proven wrong. Yeah, the same government that went to war for "freedom" (not oil and money) would lie to us.

 

[*Ace* 10+ year member]

marijuana smoke contains a number of irritants and carcinogens

As I said, if you burn something and inhale the resulting smoke, you'll be inhaling carcinogens. It doesn't matter what substance you smoke. There's no way to get around the fact. But, like I said, if you EAT....let me say that again, if you EAT marijuana you will be perfectly fine. There's no need to point out anything else in your post because only by burning marijuana will you release carcinogens. And carcinogens will be released when you burn anything.

The marijuananews quote, not very creditable to me. You can see the parenthesis that dispute the facts they claim. Also, look at the date is was published, that was 5 years ago. And the foxnews quote, come on, do I even need to say anything? It's fox news for christ sake. But let's all just ASSUME that Marijuana has A LOT of carcinogens, the fact still remains...

There is no evidence that cannabinoids cause cancer.

 

[AAckley1 10+ year member]

the answer to the carcinegin debate

vaporize your weed...get the THC, none of the other shit

btw....someone asked whats so bad in air that would cause cancer....obviously you dont live in a city that is above a million people because that is a assload of pollution from cars, buses, burning objects and such

 

[dkguitarist 5,000+ posts]

why push the subject to smoke weed when you can go to the nearest wal-greens and buy a legal liquid form (marinol-liquid thc)? that takes care of the carcinogenics and illegal part.

also, if the government decides to make their own cannibus, they're gonna water it down (pull down the thc level just like how some states have 6 point beer and others have 3). what's gonna stop the end-user from growing their own with a stronger thc level and maybe lace it with somethign to make it more "potent"?

it's NOT gonna stop the street dealers from selling more "POTENT" forms of it. it's all about the "strongest/quickest" "high". same with alcohol. you wanna get drunk, you buy liquor or the highest point beer you can find.

it's not gonna stop the illegal street dealers from selling regardless //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

 

[CBFryman2 5,000+ posts]

As I said, if you burn something and inhale the resulting smoke, you'll be inhaling carcinogens. It doesn't matter what substance you smoke. There's no way to get around the fact. But, like I said, if you EAT....let me say that again, if you EAT marijuana you will be perfectly fine. There's no need to point out anything else in your post because only by burning marijuana will you release carcinogens. And carcinogens will be released when you burn anything.
The marijuananews quote, not very creditable to me. You can see the parenthesis that dispute the facts they claim. Also, look at the date is was published, that was 5 years ago. And the foxnews quote, come on, do I even need to say anything? It's fox news for christ sake. But let's all just ASSUME that Marijuana has A LOT of carcinogens, the fact still remains...

I can smoke tea leaf all day long and not get cancer. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

If it contains carcenogens you can get cancer from it. Saying you cant is like saying dipping tobbaco doesnt cause cancer of the mouth. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

why push the subject to smoke weed when you can go to the nearest wal-greens and buy a legal liquid form (marinol-liquid thc)? that takes care of the carcinogenics and illegal part.
also, if the government decides to make their own cannibus, they're gonna water it down (pull down the thc level just like how some states have 6 point beer and others have 3). what's gonna stop the end-user from growing their own with a stronger thc level and maybe lace it with somethign to make it more "potent"?

it's NOT gonna stop the street dealers from selling more "POTENT" forms of it. it's all about the "strongest/quickest" "high". same with alcohol. you wanna get drunk, you buy liquor or the highest point beer you can find.

it's not gonna stop the illegal street dealers from selling regardless //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

The governement doesnt water down alcohol. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif They make the beer the proof that they want it to be or that the recepie will turn out... You can buy 'moon shine.' It's called 190 grain liqor and it will light you on fire.

 

[lvfive.o 10+ year member]

They put it to vote last time and it didnt pass, only time will tell if it does this time.

 

[*Ace* 10+ year member]

I can smoke tea leaf all day long and not get cancer. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif
If it contains carcenogens you can get cancer from it. Saying you cant is like saying dipping tobbaco doesnt cause cancer of the mouth. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

The governement doesnt water down alcohol. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif They make the beer the proof that they want it to be or that the recepie will turn out... You can buy 'moon shine.' It's called 190 grain liqor and it will light you on fire.

Ehhh, it appears your right in a way. I was under the assumption that burning any substance would emit carcinogens. Regardless of the fact, studies still show that heavy, long term use of Marijuana has shown no significant increase of lung cancer, or any other cancer for that matter. And as the study I linked before shows, it's shown that people who smoke marijuana are less at risk of developing cancer than even non-smokers. And when you vaporize your weed, well then no worries (although you really have none to begin with).

 

[*Ace* 10+ year member]

why push the subject to smoke weed when you can go to the nearest wal-greens and buy a legal liquid form (marinol-liquid thc)? that takes care of the carcinogenics and illegal part.

Because it doesn't give you the traditional "high" that you get from smoking the real think. I know, I've tried.

also, if the government decides to make their own cannibus, they're gonna water it down

I highly doubt it. If it's legalized they are going to want to make profit. That won't happen if they're selling shwagg. I'll just go to my local delaer and pick up the good shit instead or even grow it myself.

 

[Tiger Bass 5,000+ posts]

why push the subject to smoke weed when you can go to the nearest wal-greens and buy a legal liquid form (marinol-liquid thc)? that takes care of the carcinogenics and illegal part.
also, if the government decides to make their own cannibus, they're gonna water it down (pull down the thc level just like how some states have 6 point beer and others have 3). what's gonna stop the end-user from growing their own with a stronger thc level and maybe lace it with somethign to make it more "potent"?

it's NOT gonna stop the street dealers from selling more "POTENT" forms of it. it's all about the "strongest/quickest" "high". same with alcohol. you wanna get drunk, you buy liquor or the highest point beer you can find.

it's not gonna stop the illegal street dealers from selling regardless //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/fyi.gif.9f1f679348da7204ce960cfc74bca8e0.gif

As it was pointed out earlier, THC is only one of the carboniods in marijuana. You will get high but it will be no where near the same.

 

[duece212 5,000+ posts]

Just thought I would share the billboard that amendment 44 supporters put up in Denver:

 

[GrayMatter4tw 10+ year member]