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You'll need a pair of these:


I'm working on the settings right now.

But in a nutshell, the setting for the one pair going to the tweeters is Linkwitz-Riley 24 dB at 4 kHz.
The rear outs that are split need to be set to the following frequencies. HPF at 70 Hz, 24 dB Linkwitz-Riley; LPF at 4 kHz, 24db.
I ran one set of tests on the midbass, and one set on the rear 4x10s for a reason. It's the ideal setting for the midbass speakers, as it keeps it inline with the passive that it usually uses.

I ran the other set to the Sony to power the 4x10s with 45 watts for two reasons. As a rear effects speaker (rear fill), at 45 watts, it will do its job and just be barely audible to the front, more so to the rear seat passengers, which is ideal. This way, you don't have both the rear door set and the rear effects speakers pulling the front stage down and towards the back of the vehicle, which is very undesirable.

Set this to full range.

One of the pair goes to the rear door coaxials, where you will also set the amplifier's HP filter to 70 Hz.
The other pair goes to the sub, which has its own remote volume control and crossovers built in so you can still attenuate the sub independently.

Set the subs LPF to 70hz.

You do not use the passive crossovers supplied with the Infinity set; the head unit will do all the frequency dividing and assigning.

That said, it's always a good idea to add a protection circuit in line with the tweeters' positive lead. Here is a simple low-frequency protection cap value that will not have any effect on the frequency/slope of the crossover in the head unit but will protect the tweeters should the electronic crossovers fail or you bump something you're not supposed to.

I'm not a fan of using cheap elctrolitics inlin to the tweeter; these are very reasonable and should not degrade the quality of the signal going to th tweeters.


I'm going to be gone most of this coming weekend, back Sunday evening; fire away if you have questions. I'll try to get to them when I return.
 
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You'll need a pair of these:


I'm working on the settings right now.

But in a nutshell, the setting for the one pair going to the tweeters is Linkwitz-Riley 24 dB at 4 kHz.
The rear outs that are split need to be set to the following frequencies. HPF at 70 Hz, 24 dB Linkwitz-Riley; LPF at 4 kHz, 24db.
I ran one set of tests on the midbass, and one set on the rear 4x10s for a reason. It's the ideal setting for the midbass speakers, as it keeps it inline with the passive that it usually uses.

I ran the other set to the Sony to power the 4x10s with 45 watts for two reasons. As a rear effects speaker (rear fill), at 45 watts, it will do its job and just be barely audible to the front, more so to the rear seat passengers, which is ideal. This way, you don't have both the rear door set and the rear effects speakers pulling the front stage down and towards the back of the vehicle, which is very undesirable.

Set this to full range.

One of the pair goes to the rear door coaxials, where you will also set the amplifier's HP filter to 70 Hz.
The other pair goes to the sub, which has its own remote volume control and crossovers built in so you can still attenuate the sub independently.

Set the subs LPF to 70hz.

You do not use the passive crossovers supplied with the Infinity set; the head unit will do all the frequency dividing and assigning.

That said, it's always a good idea to add a protection circuit in line with the tweeters' positive lead. Here is a simple low-frequency protection cap value that will not have any effect on the frequency/slope of the crossover in the head unit but will protect the tweeters should the electronic crossovers fail or you bump something you're not supposed to.

I'm not a fan of using cheap elctrolitics inlin to the tweeter; these are very reasonable and should not degrade the quality of the signal going to th tweeters.


I'm going to be gone most of this coming weekend, back Sunday evening; fire away if you have questions. I'll try to get to them when I return.
thanks for all the well thought out responses. I have a few questions, but before I proceed I want to say I am getting cold feet about the sony amp, do you think they will be ok powering the tweeters given the 4 ohm / 3 ohm problem? I dont want to regret the set up if the tweeters dont play well with the amp. I could pay a little more for a Pioneer amp that I found online (the DX104 or the D1004) thoughts?

I know you tried to talk me out of the Sony earlier, sorry.

regardless of sony or pioneer amp, I do like the higher amp fosi decision you suggested.

the questions I have are;
  • the sony amp AND the pioneer amp say they can be powered off of the head unit, is this a bad idea? it might make the distribution block a smaller / simpler set up. but if it means cleaner more consistant power Im ok with the larger set up I plan on installing the sony/pioneer behind the head unit, so the simplicity may be ideal.
  • I am also seeing that the power feed for the sony is a 16 or 14 gauge wire, and the amp has a 15Afuse .. should I match that 15 A fuse with a 15A in the corresponding distro block feed? you are suggesting I run 4 AWG off the distro block, I am finding that the Fosi can take 8 or even 10, the Sony (or pioneer) can take 8-12, and the kicker sub can take 10-12.. is it just a better plan to oversize the power and then step-down in size closer to the amp? the only amp I have that has a screwpin clamp down connection would be the Fosi, so the kicker and the sony (or pioneer) all have harnesses that would require some type of "step down" I especially want to make sure I dont create a fire hazard.
  • from the Fosi Amp, I am thinking 14 gauge speaker wire , do you agree? running speaker wire through this old trucks interior panels/doors will be challenging.

- I may need some help setting up / understanding the "low frequency protectin cap" you are suggesting for the tweeters, this would definately be my first time doing this type of set up.

thats all I canthink of now, I am getting things laid out and mentally preparing for all of this.... the heat is brutal out here in Southern California so my time outside is limited each day.. Hope your weekend is great!
 
Great questions.

I would think grabbing another Fosi would be the way to go. As for installations behind the dash, not a simpler ir easier task; on the contrary. Consider running the large lead to the distro block under one of the seats.

Then run the wires over to the other side, under the carpet, to the two amps, of which ever you end up with. Now, if you do elect to mount them elsewhere, even up under the dash where you have access without removing much of anything, then consider using this amp for the front midbass and the rear coaxials.


That would free up the Fosi to deliver 100x4 to the tweeters and the rear 4x10s. You would just set the gains conservatively for the output to the tweeters. Additinally, since that channel will not be split, you can also attenuate it up or down after the fact to level control it's specific output relative to the volume of the midbass.

The cap placement for the tweeter protection is as follows:

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Somewhere in that lead, closest to the tweeter you can manage.


I did want to mention something that is important to be aware of and write down as you get started.

Always look at the crossover grouping on the amplifiers; these are always paired. You will see them listed as front & rear L/R or 1/2 & 3/4, etc.

Pay close attention to how I routed the split signals to the various amplifier channels.

When you run a signal to the amp, write down what you're doing. I ran the front head unit signal to the Fosi 1/2 channels; left is 1, right is 2, etc. Do the same each time you get ready to plug things in.

You'll do this so that when it comes time to wire the speakers, the only important thing, is the L/R part and which driver it is going to.

Having marked what is going into the amp and for what, ensures that you know which speaker lead is going where as well.

You just need to make sure that the signal going in gets to the speaker it's intended for, and that will go a long way to making sure it happens the way intended.

I bring this up cause even though I've advised on what to do with the HU signals coming from the RCAs, the drawing, relative to the actual connections to the amps, may be reversed or whatever, but as long as you write it down and make sure that the speaker leads associated with that input are used for the correct speaker, you should be fine.

As for the wire gauge, the important thing to remember is that the distance from the actual power source and the current needed to run that amplifier unimpeded is what determines that actual gauge needed.

If you can get the combined current needed for all the amplifiers to the distribution block using 4 gauge, great; if not, you need to move to 2 gauge; if not, move that length of cable to 1/0 gauge, etc.

Now that you've got that established, then most of the amps we're talking about, and the sub (which is a powered sub), will likely be fine with 8-gauge power/ground leads, as long as they are close and as long as they can get the power needed, uninpeded/reduced from the distro block.

There are many charts online that will tell you what a given length cable is capable of easily carrying the current needed at a given voltage (use 14.4).

If you're right there on the total needed, always opt for the next largest unless you cannot physically get it there; if really close, you're going to be fine considering that you'll likely never be playing at anywhere near system potential theoretical max draw.

As for the fusing, yes, always good to match fusing to the amp as already stipulated by the manufacturer.

That said, it's not necessary if the amp already has built-in fuses. Then you can use whatever came with the block or a dummy fuse (neutral link); basically, it is the shape of a fuse but just a piece of metal instead of a fuse that bridges the gap.


If all the amps in use have their own fusing, then you really only need a 1 to 3 post distro block and a 1 to 3-grounding block


Power and ground:


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Don't ever strip down the wire if it's too large, not a good idea, use reducers.


Brass or plated copper is best here, as aluminum will oxidize and corrode where brass and tin-plated copper will not- well, not nearly as fast. Tinned, solid copper is best, but it's also hella expensive and rarely used.
 
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