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I wouldn't care if he tiktok'd you saying he's scared...You're about as intimidating as Joe biden on a bicycle...
 
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Let me clarify. Air is a FLUID, glass is a liquid.
So, how do we settle the bet?

Air is a gas that acts like a fluid (as you almost corrected your claim to); glass is not a liquid, it's an amorphous solid.
 

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THIS thread is toxic, makes about as much sense as "Biden/Harris whiners only" and is a waste of time... dont feed the trolls
 

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So, how do we settle the bet?

Air is a gas that acts like a fluid (as you almost corrected your claim to), glass is not a liquid.
Air flows. Any substance that flows is a fluid. Glass's stability depends on temperature. When heated, glass becomes a supercooled liquid.

My 5 likes please.
 
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Somebody is doing some Googling. 🤪 🥤 🍿
 
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Air flows. Any substance that flows is a fluid. Glass's stability depends on temperature. When heated, glass becomes a super cooled liquid.

My 5 likes please.
"Glass, however, is actually neither a liquid—supercooled or otherwise—nor a solid. It is an amorphous solid—a state somewhere between those two states of matter."
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"The use of the term "supercooled liquid" to describe glass still persists, but is considered by many to be an unfortunate misnomer that should be avoided."
"glass is an amorphous solid, meaning that the atoms and molecules display more random arrangements rather than the definite lattice patterns of conventional solids. glass also does not follow the typical transition from liquid to solid, which usually involves molecules lining up to form a crystal pattern. instead, glass molecules are effectively frozen in place before this crystallization can occur"

The air claim is a draw b/c you corrected your definition along the way. Glass is an amorphous solid, not a liquid, any more than steel is a liquid just because it flows when heated. And...glass has to be heated hundreds of degrees hotter than steel just to liquify.
 

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Are we talking air as a medium?
Compression and rarefaction are properties usually used in car audio.
Its not flow so to speak but boundry layer air and ratio unless sealed. Make it a 4th and its a designers dream... get fs as close to tuning /w/ adequate port and you got a winner.
Otherwise the air is AGITATED and relys on wall area... jeez.
Aeros were a thing once weren't they?
Boundary layer air should be as quiet and stable as possible... flare it.
The things I know... 😭

I hate to interject but Rob is toxic... this is a car audio site... GTFO
 

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Somebody is doing some Googling. 🤪 🥤 🍿
I made an educated assumption that you wouldn't just accept my claim about glass as a proof, so i offer you sources that you can read and verify the claim.
And if you read one, it scientifically explains why it is an amorphous solid. "Because it flows" is not a valid reason to think glass is a liquid.
 

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"Glass, however, is actually neither a liquid—supercooled or otherwise—nor a solid. It is an amorphous solid—a state somewhere between those two states of matter."
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"The use of the term "supercooled liquid" to describe glass still persists, but is considered by many to be an unfortunate misnomer that should be avoided."
"glass is an amorphous solid, meaning that the atoms and molecules display more random arrangements rather than the definite lattice patterns of conventional solids. glass also does not follow the typical transition from liquid to solid, which usually involves molecules lining up to form a crystal pattern. instead, glass molecules are effectively frozen in place before this crystallization can occur"

The air claim is a draw b/c you corrected your definition along the way. Glass is an amorphous solid, not a liquid, any more than steel is a liquid just because it flows when heated. And...glass has to be heated hundreds of degrees hotter than steel just to liquify.
I guess we will have to call both a draw...

Please reference paragraph 5.
 

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I made an educated assumption that you wouldn't just accept my claim about glass as a proof, so i offer you sources that you can read and verify the claim.
And if you read one, it scientifically explains why it is an amorphous solid. "Because it flows" is not a valid reason to think glass is a liquid.
You go Rob... keep posting your bs.


 
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RobGMN

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Are we talking air as a medium?
Compression and rarefaction are properties usually used in car audio.
Its not flow so to speak but boundry layer air and ratio unless sealed. Make it a 4th and its a designers dream... get fs as close to tuning /w/ adequate port and you got a winner.
Otherwise the air is AGITATED and relys on wall area... jeez.
Aeros were a thing once weren't they?
Boundary layer air should be as quiet and stable as possible... flare it.
The things I know... 😭

I hate to interject but Rob is toxic... this is a car audio site... GTFO
No. We were disussing whether air is a gas, a liquid, or a fluid, and whether glass is a liquid or a solid.
Try to keep up instead of trying to flex nutz by just prattling like a 2-beer drunk.
 

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