Weight lifting help

[noob with an RS 10+ year member]

whats the difference with drinking weight gainer shakes (such as cytogainer and meal replacement shakes) and drinking protein shakes?

 

[Chevillac 5,000+ posts]

whats the difference with drinking weight gainer shakes (such as cytogainer and meal replacement shakes) and drinking protein shakes?

And which time of day do you take each one? (after meal, anytime, after workout?)

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

weight gainers do just that: make you gain weight. protein is just thatrotein

weight gainers are pretty much useless, just eat lots of healthy lean foods

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Since I dont want to jack the other thread, lets finish the convo in here.
I need tips on how to start taking protein, IE what kinda, how much, when, etc.

I weigh around 145-150lbs right now, I workout 3 times a week for about an hour, and I do lots of high row, DB bench, and front lift stuff, with ending in abs. Im going to start doing legs on my off days I think,and adding more cardio.

I'd like to gain at least 10-15lbs.

Help?

If you want to gain weight stop all cardio for now. Increase your caloric intake above what it currently is lift heavy with low reps for your sets. Take whey protein stay away from soy as it isn't very good for you in high doses. Try allthewhey.com. Also if you can't get enough calories during the day try adding a mass gain shake into your diet. I did this and gained 20 pounds with little increase in body fat. To minimize body fat gain don't try and gain all the weight at once; be patient. Also realize that in order to gain bulk your body fat will have to temporarily increase because you have to have a surplus of food. If you don't your muscle won't be able to grow. Also cut out the alcohol drinking, this will only cause your body to store more fat and will dump your natural testosterone levels (temporarily ofcourse). No drugs use either.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

weight gainers do just that: make you gain weight. protein is just thatrotein
weight gainers are pretty much useless, just eat lots of healthy lean foods

Disagree. If used responsibly and if you select a high quality weight gainer you will see results. In order to get bigger you have to gain weight. Any bodybuilder will tell you prior to a contest they go to a cutting phase. Prior to the cutting phase they were bulking.

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

Disagree. If used responsibly and if you select a high quality weight gainer you will see results. In order to get bigger you have to gain weight. Any bodybuilder will tell you prior to a contest they go to a cutting phase. Prior to the cutting phase they were bulking.

i know about the phases //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/wink.gif.608e3ea05f1a9f98611af0861652f8fb.gif

best weight gainer is food however, something with useful calories and that you don't have to choke down (not 3 lbs of bacon everyday though //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/uhoh.gif.c07307dd22ee7e63e22fc8e9c614d1fd.gif )

 

[WheresTheButta 10+ year member]

ok, dont know if this was said already...

work only 2 muscle groups per workout day (abs don't count for this though, do abs every other day - every day is overkill and doesnt increase results)

The most effective way is to work out 2 areas that dont get tired simultaneously - do not repeat do NOT do back & biceps or chest and triceps/shoulders the same day. You will tire one group out by working the other, and your stamina will suffer.

When I was a personal trainer @ gold's gym the plan that I followed was chest/biceps on mondays, cardio & shoulders tuesday, back & traps on wed, forearms and more cardio on thurs, and triceps and legs fridays. I had very good results with that, but remember to occasionally switch the days around and mix up the routines for each group. As far as what to do with shakes and stuff..... I liked to have a redbull before workout, gatorade in between sets, and a myoplex with peanut butter and skim milk after... If you're really trying to bulk up, try apple juice with a protein shake instead of water - it tastes really really good if you put some cinnamon and peanut butter in.

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

can I mix my protein shake w/ some OJ?

 

[marleyskater420 5,000+ posts]

bump...im about to go workout...

 

[PV Audio 5,000+ posts]

can I mix my protein shake w/ some OJ?

//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crap.gif.7f4dd41e3e9b23fbd170a1ee6f65cecc.gif probably be nasty, but it's all goin to the same place..

 

[Bigrick31 10+ year member]

Full well rounded meals are far better than protien shakes and weight gainer. weight gainer is loded with calories and other things that whey protiend dosnt have. Ideally you just want to take a protien shake post workout. stick to eating 5-6 smaller meals a day. eat lots of protiens. track how many calories you eat and watch your weight then adjust your caliores to get the desired effect weather it be gain or lose weight

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

Full well rounded meals are far better than protien shakes and weight gainer. weight gainer is loded with calories and other things that whey protiend dosnt have. Ideally you just want to take a protien shake post workout. stick to eating 5-6 smaller meals a day. eat lots of protiens. track how many calories you eat and watch your weight then adjust your caliores to get the desired effect weather it be gain or lose weight

You don't want to take just protein after a work out. You have to get carbs/ calories in you. The two most important times to eat are prior to a workout and immediately after.

Yes food is the best way to get your calories but if you work and go to school like me and don't want to take in trash like fast food you have to use replacement for a meal.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

can I mix my protein shake w/ some OJ?

I wouldn't do this prior to a workout. THe OJ is going to probably give you nasty flem.

 

[joshpoints 10+ year member]

ahh, wasn't sure because some people think that
a. fat turns into muscle the more you workout

b. more muscle = faster fat loss

two great myths. first one is NOT true in the least and the 2nd one has not been proven to be true //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

The second one can be true. The more muscle you gain the more fuel is required to keep it running. If you reduce your calories and you have more muscle you will lose fat faster because your body will dip into the fat storage for food. If you take someone with less muscle their muscle won't need to dip into the fat storage as much because there is less muscle to fuel.

 

[swc204 10+ year member]

just lift weights everyday and eat large healthy meals. you dont need any pills or anything like that.