The TRUTH of September 11, 2001

disregarding most of what has been said above, and back on topic about the video.

how can somone debunk most of the logical information that was displayed there? specifically about the pentagon being hit by that **** plane.

i have yet to see any evidence of a COMMERCIAL PLANE CRASH in any pictures whatsoever.

secondly, the WTC - theres no way on earth that those buildings would fall apart as they did from a fire on the top floor. so how did the second-hit tower fall first after the plane barely clips the building and most of the fuel is ejected outwards, burned for less time than the frist tower when officials state that the buildings were completly destroyed by the jet fuel fires? not even mentioning the dozens of eye-witness descriptions of "several" explosions inside the building(s).

please explain those points to me. because none of that makes any sort of logical sense whatsoever.

 
Bush said we wwere going in for the terrorists ,and osama, but ackward enough the words weapons of mass destruction came out of his mouth so many times, that was our main goal, if we had all this evidence and all these reaons to go in there, why havnt we found what bushes main goal was? It was a way for him to get back at them because his father almost got killed by saddam. The wars a joke...The war on terror, what a joke.

 
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Puh-LEEEZE! Yes, because people would be so gullible to think that they could vote on a laptop right there on their doorstep and not have to go to a legitimate polling place like they have had to for...like....umm.....ever?!?
It happened. True fact. It happened to my uncle in Spring Hill, FL in 2000. There was even a news story on it.
 
The way I feel about September 11 is this;

September 11 was horrible. It brought the world to a halt. It was a terrible crime but there was some good that came of it. It opened the world's eyes to a threat that was left ignored until that point. Yea 3000 people died and that ****ing sucks, but you know what? It would have been worse if 30000 people died or 3000000 had they attacked with nuclear weapons.

The important thing is what we learn from it and how we take action. I think September 11 shed light on the United States' weaknesses and its strengths. The firefighters and police officers of New York were heroes. Those that lost their lives died honorably - they are heroes and they will not be forgotten.

I think we as Americans, myself as a Canadian, should learn from this and try to understand why the attacks happened. I think that we need to try and understand why people on the otherside of the earth dont like us and are trying to hurt us. What have we done to them? What has our government(s) done to them that hasnt really been explained to us? What can we do to improve relations with the rest of the world and what can we do to improve our homeland security without taking away the freedoms of Americans that we fight so hard to protect? That is what my honest and brief opinion on September 11 is.

J

 
The way I feel about September 11 is this;
September 11 was horrible. It brought the world to a halt. It was a terrible crime but there was some good that came of it. It opened the world's eyes to a threat that was left ignored until that point. Yea 3000 people died and that ****ing sucks, but you know what? It would have been worse if 30000 people died or 3000000 had they attacked with nuclear weapons.

The important thing is what we learn from it and how we take action. I think September 11 shed light on the United States' weaknesses and its strengths. The firefighters and police officers of New York were heroes. Those that lost their lives died honorably - they are heroes and they will not be forgotten.

I think we as Americans, myself as a Canadian, should learn from this and try to understand why the attacks happened. I think that we need to try and understand why people on the otherside of the earth dont like us and are trying to hurt us. What have we done to them? What has our government(s) done to them that hasnt really been explained to us? What can we do to improve relations with the rest of the world and what can we do to improve our homeland security without taking away the freedoms of Americans that we fight so hard to protect? That is what my honest and brief opinion on September 11 is.

J
Not to be an ***, but theres no way to improver relations with al quida, Al quida belives allah is there god, and anyone who oppses that is a savage and an impurity in society and must be destroyed, who can reason with bombers and suicidals, the US cannot avoid confontation with these people

 
Not to be an ***, but theres no way to improver relations with al quida, Al quida belives allah is there god, and anyone who oppses that is a savage and an impurity in society and must be destroyed, who can reason with bombers and suicidals, the US cannot avoid confontation with these people
Im not talking abotu the terrorists. Im talking about the people who are being brainwashed by the terrorists. If you grow up your entire life being told one thing, it is hard to believe anything else. If they grow up taught to hate the US, what would you expect? If these loose third world countries can get some order, structure and human rights going on, they could start contributing to the global community rather than just existing as a breeding ground for terrorism and other bad shit.

 
Im not talking abotu the terrorists. Im talking about the people who are being brainwashed by the terrorists. If you grow up your entire life being told one thing, it is hard to believe anything else. If they grow up taught to hate the US, what would you expect? If these loose third world countries can get some order, structure and human rights going on, they could start contributing to the global community rather than just existing as a breeding ground for terrorism and other bad shit.

do you think 19 men from a cave made norad stand down that day?

 
"Iraq is a nation that :
1. Has a demonstrated history of violence against neighboring countries.

America invading them is no different? We have bombed around 100 other countries since WW2. If we are saying Iraq is bad for violence against a few countries, what do you say to the US bombing 100's of others?

2. Has demonstrated deployment of WMD (chemical weapons). The best intelligence indicates that WMD's are still present.

The intelligence said that there were no WMD's. THEY SAID INTELLIGENCE WAS WRONG. Where are these WMD's huh? Weve been in Iraq for how long? and we still have yet to find them.You say the best intelligence? They said that their intelligence failed. Your very argument was disproved by the very people that claimed there was WMDs...you may want to re-look at your sources...

3. Has collaborated with and aided Al-Queda, the very terrorist organization that invaded your country, mercilessly slaughtering thousands of innocent civilians.

The CIA trained Al-Queda, shut up. You know absolutely nothing of how Al-Queda came to be, or how they got their training or weapons....the US FUNDED THEM.

4. Has demonstrated complete defiance against the UN. At least a dozen Security Council Resolutions have been passed since the first Gulf War, condemning the regime.

Bush invading Iraq wasn't direct defiance against the UN? Howso?

5. Has barbarically ***** and tortured it's own citizens."

The "citizens" you speak of are people Sadam hated. They werent even Iraqis, but Serbs staying in Iraq. Think of it like Hitler and the jews...yeah the jews lived in Germany, and were "citizens", but hitler killed them...same with Sadam and the serbs. If you did your reasearch you would know this.

what do you all think of this?

I think you need to research things before you quote people.

I quoted someone from another site......those are his reasons for going into war.
Did you even watch the video, or are you making ignorant comments about something you know nothing of?

Quote from your site of "officials"

"FACT: On 9/11 there were only 14 fighter jets on alert in the contiguous 48 states. No computer network or alarm automatically alerted the North American Air Defense Command (NORAD) of missing planes. "They [civilian Air Traffic Control, or ATC] had to pick up the phone and literally dial us," says Maj. Douglas Martin, public affairs officer for NORAD. Boston Center, one of 22 Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) regional ATC facilities, called NORAD's Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) three times: at 8:37 am EST to inform NEADS that Flight 11 was hijacked; at 9:21 am to inform the agency, mistakenly, that Flight 11 was headed for Washington (the plane had hit the North Tower 35 minutes earlier); and at 9:41 am to (erroneously) identify Delta Air Lines Flight 1989 from Boston as a possible hijacking. The New York ATC called NEADS at 9:03 am to report that United Flight 175 had been hijacked--the same time the plane slammed into the South Tower. Within minutes of that first call from Boston Center, NEADS scrambled two F-15s from Otis Air Force Base in Falmouth, Mass., and three F-16s from Langley Air National Guard Base in Hampton, Va. None of the fighters got anywhere near the pirated planes.

Why couldn't ATC find the hijacked flights? When the hijackers turned off the planes' transponders, which broadcast identifying signals, ATC had to search 4500 identical radar blips crisscrossing some of the country's busiest air corridors. And NORAD's sophisticated radar? It ringed the continent, looking outward for threats, not inward. "It was like a doughnut," Martin says. "There was no coverage in the middle." Pre-9/11, flights originating in the States were not seen as threats and NORAD wasn't prepared to track them."

You know where the 14 planes were? Miles away from the PENTAGON. EVEN IF THERE WAS ONLY 14 PLANES TO PROTECT AMERICA, THEY WERE MILES AWAY FROM THE ATTACKS. There is no excuse as to why they didnt intercept them.

If you say the ATC couldn't find them because it was doing coverage in a "donut" style sweep, then they should have theoretically, picked up the planes, afterall, they were on the outer regions of the US, and would thus be where the outer "donut" would pickup..there were no planes in the middle of the US, so why would they be looking there? The ATC knew where the planes had been hijacked, there is plenty of evidence to support that the planes were known to be missing far in advance to attacking the WTC, so why didnt the ATC look where the planes disappeard from?

If something disappears, you look where it disappeared from, does anyone not understand this concept? Planes are hijacked, and we have the best air defense system in the world, and we know where they were hijacked, but we still cant find them?

 
do you think 19 men from a cave made norad stand down that day?
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Not to be an ***, but theres no way to improver relations with al quida, Al quida belives allah is there god, and anyone who oppses that is a savage and an impurity in society and must be destroyed, who can reason with bombers and suicidals, the US cannot avoid confontation with these people
The US founded Al-Quida.Period. We created them. Think about that and think about how the government said it was al-quida's fault, BUT WE TRAINED THEM.

This is another excerpt from that "Debunk" article some tool posted..

CLAIM: "It has been standard operating procedures for decades to immediately intercept off-course planes that do not respond to communications from air traffic controllers," says the Web site oilempire.us. "When the Air Force 'scrambles' a fighter plane to intercept, they usually reach the plane in question in minutes."

FACT: In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). "Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ," FAA spokesman Bill Schumann tells PM. After 9/11, NORAD and the FAA increased cooperation, setting up hotlines between ATCs and NORAD command centers, according to officials from both agencies. NORAD has also increased its fighter coverage and has installed radar to monitor airspace over the continent.

Read that. Even if it took the jet an hour to find the lost jet, THEY STILL SCRAMBLED JETS TO FIND A MISSING ONE...your very article contradicts itself..

Here, watch me show you how stupid you are ..

Your article wants to disprove this= "It has been standard operating procedures for decades to immediately intercept off-course planes that do not respond to communications from air traffic controllers," says the Web site oilempire.us. "When the Air Force 'scrambles' a fighter plane to intercept, they usually reach the plane in question in minutes."

It said this= "With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. "

It just said that they don't scramble jets, and then goes to say how it still took 1hr and 22minutes to get a jet to a plane.. The fact that there had been only 1 plane that has gone off course is irrelevant, it makes no difference is 10 had gone off course, the important matter is that even though there has been only 1 to go off course, we still scrambled jets to find it. End of story.

 
I dont know really what to believe about this whole thing... i have seen many videos on it and some of the video has concerning evidence such as....

the plane that crashed into the pentagon.... the goverment stated that the plane which crashed in the pentagon was a plane that had a larger wingspan then the hole that was left in the pentagon itself.... how could that happen? also all the parts to the plane dissapared... where the hell did they all go???? the government stated that it was burned or melted away in the crash... this however cannot be true bc the plane engines are designed by "Rolyes Roice"(not sure if i spelled that right) and "rolyes roice" has stated the engine parts they make were designed to stand heat 4 times the amount that was caused in the wreck...

sometimes gatta be up with that

 
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