Should I get 18 XXX?

[Graphic 10+ year member]

Well.. I've been really debating lately on what I want to get. I have changed my mind about 2352 times in the past week.

The main thing i want is more SQ than SPL, and from what I've read the XXX are a good sq sub,however, still do well in SPL as well.

Only problem is I have never 'heard' an XXX. Basically just from reading forums and what not. So I'm kinda skeptical about getting one and not being pleased with it.

What are everyones opinions on this sub? Pros/Cons?

Thanks

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[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

The main thing i want is more SQ than SPL, and from what I've read the XXX are a good sq sub,however, still do well in SPL as well. Which is basically what I want.

I think you still need to make up your mind
However, if you get the XXX, you'll get the best of both worlds SQL!

 

[Graphic 10+ year member]

Yeah, Kind of worded that wrong. I want more SQ than SPL, but i would love for it to be loud and still clear //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/smile.gif.1ebc41e1811405b213edfc4622c41e27.gif

 

[nateone 10+ year member]

as far as your decisson goes. no matter what an 18 isnt going to achieve the sq of a 12. but a 12 wont achieve the spl of an 18. i havent heard the xxx yet, but my local shop that co sponsor's me is doing a xxx install and so i'll give you my opinion if your interested. i'm currently running pbx 15's and have used jl, infinity and memphis in the past. (as well as audiobahn.. heheheh not proud)

 

[iamamp3pimp 5,000+ posts]

ive heard them, and they kick ***. you may want to go with a set of 15's tho deping on what your trying to do.

 

[MazdaSpeed99]

The XXX is a very good sub in my opinion one of the top ones out. They are SQL subs, put out both amazing sq and high spl.

 

[Graphic 10+ year member]

I appreciate the replys. Guess that's what I'll get... SHould i get the standard 2 ohm? or upgrade to the quad 1.4 or Dual .7?...and since im a newb..what kinda amp would run the 1.4/dual.7?

 

[violator5spd 10+ year member]

I appreciate the replys. Guess that's what I'll get... SHould i get the standard 2 ohm? or upgrade to the quad 1.4 or Dual .7?...and since im a newb..what kinda amp would run the 1.4/dual.7?

Depends on what you want. Get the regular dual 2 if you want to run it at either .5 ohms or 2 ohms. I'm not sure what it will run at with those quad. configurations, somebody else will know though. If one of those quad. options allows you to run it at 1ohm then that may be your best choice, depending upon amplifier. For example, with a dual 2ohm setup, a JBL 1200.1 would put out more power than a Hifonics Brutus BX1500D. But if you can get it to run at 1ohm, the Brutus would have 200-300 watts over the JBL.

*EDIT - what I said is true, but not for 1 sub, for 2.

 

[saywhat? 5,000+ posts]

isnt dual 2 a 1 ohm load? i know dual 4 is a 2 ohm....atleast thats what ive been thinking forever.

 

[violator5spd 10+ year member]

isnt dual 2 a 1 ohm load? i know dual 4 is a 2 ohm....atleast thats what ive been thinking forever.

You've been thinking right forever...

For some reason I was thinking of 2 subs instead of 1 //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/banghead.gif.8606515f668c74f6de0281deb475b6fd.gif

 

[audioholic 5,000+ posts]

as far as your decisson goes. no matter what an 18 isnt going to achieve the sq of a 12. but a 12 wont achieve the spl of an 18. i havent heard the xxx yet, but my local shop that co sponsor's me is doing a xxx install and so i'll give you my opinion if your interested. i'm currently running pbx 15's and have used jl, infinity and memphis in the past. (as well as audiobahn.. heheheh not proud)

Why wont an 18 have the SQ of a 12? I assume you mean the 12 will sound better...? The 18 will play lower, with more authority. This is bad for SQ?

Smaller subs having better SQ is a popular misconception, partially sustained by the fact that SQ competitors tend to use smaller subs in their SQ installs. However, most SQ judging is done at (relatively) low volume levels, where lots of cone area isn't necessary. Also, its easier to blend 10's or 12's in with midbass or midrange drivers, another reason many SQ competitors use smaller subs. BUT, tat in no way means 18's have less SQ, just more output.

A sub with sufficient motor strength to control the increase in cone weight of an 18 over smaller sizes will have no trouble playing just as 'clean' as a smaller cone. I assure you, a XXX has enough motor strength. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

Why wont an 18 have the SQ of a 12? I assume you mean the 12 will sound better...? The 18 will play lower, with more authority. This is bad for SQ?
Smaller subs having better SQ is a popular misconception, partially sustained by the fact that SQ competitors tend to use smaller subs in their SQ installs. However, most SQ judging is done at (relatively) low volume levels, where lots of cone area isn't necessary. Also, its easier to blend 10's or 12's in with midbass or midrange drivers, another reason many SQ competitors use smaller subs. BUT, tat in no way means 18's have less SQ, just more output.

A sub with sufficient motor strength to control the increase in cone weight of an 18 over smaller sizes will have no trouble playing just as 'clean' as a smaller cone. I assure you, a XXX has enough motor strength. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

I completely agree!//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

 

[loserpunk 10+ year member]

Why wont an 18 have the SQ of a 12? I assume you mean the 12 will sound better...? The 18 will play lower, with more authority. This is bad for SQ?
Smaller subs having better SQ is a popular misconception, partially sustained by the fact that SQ competitors tend to use smaller subs in their SQ installs. However, most SQ judging is done at (relatively) low volume levels, where lots of cone area isn't necessary. Also, its easier to blend 10's or 12's in with midbass or midrange drivers, another reason many SQ competitors use smaller subs. BUT, tat in no way means 18's have less SQ, just more output.

A sub with sufficient motor strength to control the increase in cone weight of an 18 over smaller sizes will have no trouble playing just as 'clean' as a smaller cone. I assure you, a XXX has enough motor strength. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/biggrin.gif.d71a5d36fcbab170f2364c9f2e3946cb.gif

totally correct sir

i was just about to link that guy to the adire website where they prove your previous statement //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/ladysman.gif.b3d08666a805020911dd758f82cd9ab0.gif

 

[ShRapNeR 10+ year member]

Well.. I've been really debating lately on what I want to get. I have changed my mind about 2352 times in the past week.
The main thing i want is more SQ than SPL, and from what I've read the XXX are a good sq sub,however, still do well in SPL as well.

Only problem is I have never 'heard' an XXX. Basically just from reading forums and what not. So I'm kinda skeptical about getting one and not being pleased with it.

What are everyones opinions on this sub? Pros/Cons?

Thanks

i was in same boat

so i bought one w/o listening to it... when i recieved it and hooked it up... it sounded awsome

everyone that everyone says about them is true (except the bad things)

 

[DBfan187 5,000+ posts]

What bad things? Money in the port? That was your fault for being a dumbass!