Current events discussion

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Hang on a second here. So you've traded commodities and/or done option trading, yet you refuse to acknowledge the excessive PE ratio of stocks prior to the April crash? WTF????

You're still trying to convince us all that every analyst and market expert is wrong when they say the market tank was due to Trump's stupid tariffs announcement? That YOU know better than ALL of the market analysts and experts worldwide?
Do you also thing the market drop after 9/11 was simply an expected "correction"? How about when COVID hit? Just a coincidental correction?

I'll ask AGAIN: Please show me a single analysis that says the market tank was simply a market correction, and it's just coincidence that it happened when Trump made his announcement.

ONE SINGLE ANALYSIS BY AN EXPERT THAT CORROBORATES YOUR BELIEF

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

You're still trying to convince us all that every analyst and market expert is wrong when they say the market tank was due to Trump's stupid tariffs announcement? That YOU know better than ALL of the market analysts and experts worldwide?

I'll ask AGAIN: Please show me a single analysis that says the market tank was simply a market correction, and it's just coincidence that it happened when Trump made his announcement.

ONE SINGLE ANALYSIS BY AN EXPERT THAT CORROBORATES YOUR BELIEF

Not sure what dip you are talking about but I am talking about the one yesterday. The one where I asked you this question.

"Anyway... The S&P 500 -80 in 30min today... thoughts? Is Trump to blame here too?"

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Not sure what dip you are talking about but I am talking about the one yesterday. The one where I asked you this question.

"Anyway... The S&P 500 -80 in 30min today... thoughts? Is Trump to blame here too?"

Yeah. I responded to that. You even commented on my response.
Or was it that crazy frog?
And why are you repsonding to direct requests I make of Jimi77?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Delusional sycophant Mike Johnson cracks up the room.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Yeah. I responded to that. You even commented on my response.
Or was it that crazy frog?
And why are you repsonding to direct requests I make of Jimi77?

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Again, you do know that is not why it dipped?

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Again, you do know that is not why it dipped?

Ahhh, so just like the tariff announcement having nothing to do with it, YOU know the market analysts and experts are all wrong about the dip in question.

The guy who thinks that if you lose $100, you get it back by working overtime...

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

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Point out where my quote is not verbatim:

Here's what you've been saying repeatedly. The fact that you cannot discern the massive difference is telling. I get it you came up with a good gotcha question and you don't want to let go. Maybe this question worked on another website. Maybe this is a "recommended question" on the Rachel Maddow fan forum. I don't know why you're so connected to your version of what Thx said. That said, isn't a moot point since the market has already recovered all "that" money (I assume that is the that Thx is referring to)? So as far as I can tell you came up with some gotcha question to a moot point that you demand "we" answer. That's TDS.

So, how do we make "that" back by paying more for goods because of "tariffs"?

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

Ahhh, so just like the tariff announcement having nothing to do with it, YOU know the market analysts and experts are all wrong about the dip in question.

The guy who thinks that if you lose $100, you get it back by working overtime...

I think you are lost in your own liberal world.
The $100 bullshit was all in your head Rob, I made no claim about the $100 or overtime.

 

[RobGMN Premium Member]

Here's what you've been saying repeatedly. The fact that you cannot discern the massive difference is telling. I get it you came up with a good gotcha question and you don't want to let go. Maybe this question worked on another website. Maybe this is a "recommended question" on the Rachel Maddow fan forum. I don't know why you're so connected to your version of what Thx said. That said, isn't a moot point since the market has already recovered all "that" money (I assume that is the that Thx is referring to)? So as far as I can tell you came up with some gotcha question to a moot point that you demand "we" answer. That's TDS.

So, how do we make "that" back by paying more for goods because of "tariffs"?

I read your post twice.

I still don't see any indication of where my quote of what Thxone posted was not verbatim.
I do not see where the verbatim quote could be consider "my version".

I'll ask you once again to prove your accusation that my words are not verbatim, or that they are "my version" of what Thxone posted.

Here is the quote: "Do you know how fast that can be made back if everyone we are dealing with regarding tariffs plays FAIR?" - Thxone
Here is a screenshot of the post it came from:

PROVE YOUR ACCUSATION, JIMI

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

You're still trying to convince us all that every analyst and market expert is wrong when they say the market tank was due to Trump's stupid tariffs announcement? That YOU know better than ALL of the market analysts and experts worldwide?
Do you also thing the market drop after 9/11 was simply an expected "correction"? How about when COVID hit? Just a coincidental correction?
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I'll ask AGAIN: Please show me a single analysis that says the market tank was simply a market correction, and it's just coincidence that it happened when Trump made his announcement.

ONE SINGLE ANALYSIS BY AN EXPERT THAT CORROBORATES YOUR BELIEF

Again, I'll point to y2k when "experts" insisted we should buy the dip. I'll point to 2008 when "experts" were saying Lehman was financially healthy up until the day it collapsed. I'll even point to your own comment that "experts" would advise to sell when the market dipped, which would have locked in losses.

Let's be honest here, you're going to believe whoever you want to believe and you're willing to ignore all the data to the contrary. That's how TDS and political loyalty work. You're not concerned about the facts, you're concerned about a set of facts that prove Team Blue's narrative. Who cares about things like VIX, PE ratios, money printing, etc when it come to the stock markets? Cannot you see how ridiculous that is? You are literally ignoring major market forces because Orange Man bad.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Crypto mirrored the drop but it recovered very quickly.

Weird how crypto works. It's very fast moving.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

I read your post twice.

I still don't see any indication of where my quote of what Thxone posted was not verbatim.
I do not see where the verbatim quote could be consider "my version".

I'll ask you once again to prove your accusation that my words are not verbatim, or that they are "my version" of what Thxone posted.

Here is the quote: "Do you know how fast that can be made back if everyone we are dealing with regarding tariffs plays FAIR?" - Thxone
Here is a screenshot of the post it came from:
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PROVE YOUR ACCUSATION, JIMI

Well for one you are asking how we make THAT back by paying HIGHER tariffs. Higher tariffs is something YOU added to it. I never said by paying higher tariffs. I actually said fair tariffs, not HIGHER. Why are you adding in the word higher and then playing it off like I said it or even insinuated it?

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

I read your post twice.

I still don't see any indication of where my quote of what Thxone posted was not verbatim.
I do not see where the verbatim quote could be consider "my version".

I'll ask you once again to prove your accusation that my words are not verbatim, or that they are "my version" of what Thxone posted.

Here is the quote: "Do you know how fast that can be made back if everyone we are dealing with regarding tariffs plays FAIR?" - Thxone
Here is a screenshot of the post it came from:
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PROVE YOUR ACCUSATION, JIMI

Here's what you've been saying: "So, how do we make "that" back by paying more for goods because of "tariffs"?"

I thought the fact that you couldn't see the massive difference and an attempt to create a certain narrative was telling. But when the screen shot is there next to your own words and you still don't see the difference.... TDS Maximus.

 

[Jimi77 Premium Member]

Well for one you are asking how we make THAT back by paying HIGHER tariffs. Higher tariffs is something YOU added to it. I never said by paying higher tariffs. I actually said fair tariffs, not HIGHER. Why are you adding in the word higher and then playing it off like I said it or even insinuated it?

And the implication that the cost of goods will increase, but there is a bill going to the Senate lowering corporate taxes opening the possibility of creating the "room" for corps to eat higher tariffs if they occur. Then there is the whole issue of "fair." What if you and I have different opinions of what is fair? But lets distill this rather complex issue to a single talking point to beat people over the head with.

 

[ThxOne Premium Member]

And the implication that the cost of goods will increase, but there is a bill going to the Senate lowering corporate taxes opening the possibility of creating the "room" for corps to eat higher tariffs if they occur. Then there is the whole issue of "fair." What if you and I have different opinions of what is fair? But lets distill this rather complex issue to a single talking point to beat people over the head with.

Fair... Equal or better.