Crunk Times, My friend.....Crunk Times

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Indeed. This is where I would need a smooth talker like Dev to come in...
More than likely. As you can see from the PM I received, I am not the smoothest of talkers it seems. In fact I think my words have had the same effect with you at times too, I just didn't get the nicely written response from you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif

 
All he would say is:
i do the opposite of iamdeman, i would just come out and say it. Id probly call her crazy first. But people get used to me sayin shit like that all the time.

More than likely. As you can see from the PM I received, I am not the smoothest of talkers it seems. In fact I think my words have had the same effect with you at times too, I just didn't get the nicely written response from you. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/crazy.gif.c13912c32de98515d3142759a824dae7.gif
//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/laugh.gif.48439b2acf2cfca21620f01e7f77d1e4.gif you need to work on your people skills.

 
But I need base comments at times or otherwise I won't get it. People who interact with me daily talk to me in a way that seems "rude" to outsiders. But if they cooed me, they wouldn't get much out of me.
In effect, it's all good.
I could see that. Being soft has the negative effect of being ignored I suppose.
 
I just talked over this with a female coworker. She’s a little older than me and has been married a year. When I discussed my apprehension about not only the wedding ring, but the potential series of concessions I will make over the period of the relationship.
And we discussed a variety of things I like to do that she does not and that I will probably end up conceding such as making the bed, going to bed at appropriate times, time spent with friends, etc…a variety of concessions albeit it small if you look at each one, in total it becomes somewhat oppressive.

Then she asked,”What do you want her to do that she doesn’t like to do.” I said nothing. I feel that if I know she doesn’t like doing something, I don’t ask her to do it. I don’t ask her to change for me and I sit a hope you reciprocates the gesture. And she then asked, well is there something you would like her to do that she doesn’t want to do. I said of course and used a euphemism for a certain particular act; let’s call it “x”. She then said well, it’s not always a 1 for 1 relationship. She said, what about 10 bed makings in exchange for X. I would say that it is a fair deal. However, I do want it to be forced like a contract. I want it to be implied.

But then I countered that about if she did not do “x” and I made no bed makings, the net would be the same…in theory. She said, but would it be worth it to make the exchange….and I agreed.

Which leads to this? Is the basis for a successful relationship implied bargaining…an exchange of things you’d rather not do in exchange for things she’d rather not do. Is that what is meant by give and take? In the end, at least, upon prima facie, both parties would be better off after exchange.

Let’s say it is…how does one begin this discussion? I fully understand you can’t really trade 10 bed makings for one X, as both parties would just suffer through it to get done. But, perhaps, a trade of kind gesture for kind gesture?

Thoughts?

And this works for me as it is easily graphed…hell the Heckshler-Olin model describes this situation already.
yes, in your strange, financial way of looking at things, that is the give and take

I don't want to make a contract what I am suggesting is each party does this without a contract. Instead of neither person conceding anything, both parties concede.
if you suggest an actual, written document, you're going to be in trouble

both parties need to understand that concession will be made by both for the benefit of both

 
I just talked over this with a female coworker. She’s a little older than me and has been married a year. When I discussed my apprehension about not only the wedding ring, but the potential series of concessions I will make over the period of the relationship.
And we discussed a variety of things I like to do that she does not and that I will probably end up conceding such as making the bed, going to bed at appropriate times, time spent with friends, etc…a variety of concessions albeit it small if you look at each one, in total it becomes somewhat oppressive.

Then she asked,”What do you want her to do that she doesn’t like to do.” I said nothing. I feel that if I know she doesn’t like doing something, I don’t ask her to do it. I don’t ask her to change for me and I sit a hope you reciprocates the gesture. And she then asked, well is there something you would like her to do that she doesn’t want to do. I said of course and used a euphemism for a certain particular act; let’s call it “x”. She then said well, it’s not always a 1 for 1 relationship. She said, what about 10 bed makings in exchange for X. I would say that it is a fair deal. However, I do want it to be forced like a contract. I want it to be implied.

But then I countered that about if she did not do “x” and I made no bed makings, the net would be the same…in theory. She said, but would it be worth it to make the exchange….and I agreed.

Which leads to this? Is the basis for a successful relationship implied bargaining…an exchange of things you’d rather not do in exchange for things she’d rather not do. Is that what is meant by give and take? In the end, at least, upon prima facie, both parties would be better off after exchange.

Let’s say it is…how does one begin this discussion? I fully understand you can’t really trade 10 bed makings for one X, as both parties would just suffer through it to get done. But, perhaps, a trade of kind gesture for kind gesture?

Thoughts?

And this works for me as it is easily graphed…hell the Heckshler-Olin model describes this situation already.
I got to right about there and saw exactly where you were going with this.

You need to learn to loosen up a bit when it comes to relationships my financially inclined friend.

 
I got to right about there and saw exactly where you were going with this.
You need to learn to loosen up a bit when it comes to relationships my financially inclined friend.
I have been saying this for quite some time now. I however do not possess the ability to explain why for him. I also tend to lack tact in helping him with it lol.

 
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