Chat GPT, our best friend, the community's worst enemy

0kriz

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hey, this post is not directly about a subwoofer design, but about our community in car audio and how this new AI might not be a good thing for the community.
So I have been playing around with Chat GPT and while not always 100% correct (don't always see the bigger picture), it is a powerful tool that has taught me alot about subwoofer designs. here is an example:

Chat GPT why does a 6th order bandpass have a 18db roll of in both chambers?

Chat GPT:
A 6th order bandpass has a 18db roll off in both chambers because it is composed of two 3rd order filters in series(1)(2). Each 3rd order filter has a roll off of 9 dB/octave, which adds up to 18 dB/octave for the whole system(1). The roll off rate depends on the number of poles or zeros in the transfer function of the filter(3). A higher order filter has more poles or zeros and a steeper roll off rate(3)

This is not a simple question, and I believe it could spark an interesting discussion in our forum, however, why ask here when I can just ask Chat GPT and let it filter out all the bro science?

here is another example:

Chat GPT why is bass reflex louder than a sealed subwoofer?

Chat GPT:
Bass reflex is louder than a sealed subwoofer because it has higher efficiency and flatter bass response(1)(2). A bass reflex subwoofer uses a port or a vent to allow some of the sound waves from the back of the speaker cone to reinforce the sound waves from the front of the speaker cone(3). This creates more output at certain frequencies and reduces the distortion and power requirements of the speaker(3). A sealed subwoofer has no port or vent and relies on the air inside the box to act as a spring that controls the movement of the speaker cone(4). This results in less output but smoother roll off at lower frequencies(4).


If this post doesn't fit here, I'm sorry, but I was unsure where to put it. I'm really interested in what you guys think.
 
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I'm really interested in what you guys think.
It is all good and dandy, but chat gtp relies on the information input by programmers or internet users (I've no idea where it gets it's info). Now, that information has the folly of user error. It is the same as school text books that were incorrect but were published anyway because it was writer error or ignorance.
Ex: Hey chat gtp, is Joe Brandon the worst POTUS?
Chat gtp: Our information shows that Supreme Leader Grand Wizard Joseph "Dragon Slayer" Biden saved the world from an human exctinction level virus in just one single year. Although inheriting an economy that was on life support, Supreme Leader Big Kahuna Joseph "Bone Crusher" Biden breathed life from his own zephyr like breath and brought the planet back from economic collapse.
 
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It might be good for some technical explanations, but boxes have to be designed with soul, just like the music they’re playing. Like when it comes to making people happy with their boxes, you have to know what to do with the technical info.
Yes. Just along the lines of what Neil de'Grasse Tyson said. Chat gtp can copy a Van Gogh, but if tasked to create a Van Gogh, it can not.
 

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Yes. Just along the lines of what Neil de'Grasse Tyson said. Chat gtp can copy a Van Gogh, but if tasked to create a Van Gogh, it can not.
What it can do is fool you by taking elements from many artists, including Van Gogh, and mash them together to create something that is original. In a way that’s how art evolves naturally by one artist modifying their favorite artists work, then that person becomes another kids favorite and it gets modified agin, over and over and over. You can see it by looking at the evolution of rock and roll from the 50s until now. I think this tech is absolutely going to ruin the arts as a way to fulfill a person‘s soul and art will become just an aesthetic to hang on a wall, completely lacking a soul of creation.
 
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Without the journey of creation, what’s the point of life? Some people make fine furniture, some write a beautiful poem, some people have babies, some people create new mathematics to explain the universe, some write music that makes people cry. letting a computer do these creative things is literally removing life from human beings.
 
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It's not just art it'll ruin...if it runs iffy information giving an answer...I can see a car or 2 burning down because of janky "help" from chat gtp 🙈
 

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It's not just art it'll ruin...if it runs iffy information giving an answer...I can see a car or 2 burning down because of janky "help" from chat gtp 🙈
That even happened from bad advice on this forum back when it was a busy place. The chat programs just get information from the internet. Hopefully it doesn’t scour the forum here or a lot of cars are going to get sparked up.
 

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No original thoughts, but great at searching the internet... How is this thing any different from @RobGMN ?
 

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No original thoughts, but great at searching the internet... How is this thing any different from @RobGMN ?
I thought you blocked me, yet I still see your mindless drivel here. Interesting.

Good stuff from the genius who never heard the word “wont” until recently, and thought it should be “won’t”. A real brain trust.
 
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I thought you blocked me, yet I still see your mindless drivel here. Interesting.

Good stuff from the genius who never heard the word “wont” until recently, and thought it should be “won’t”. A real brain trust.
Fortunately this is a car audio forum, though i have no doubt that you are active on dictionary forums as well.
 
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It’s not. Just ask chat GPT “why should I hate people with other ideas”?… and it will tell you to go ask Robgmn
Like Thxone, you think ideas, feelings, and opinions are facts.
That’s not the case no matter how much you want it, claim it, or repeat it.
Sorry.
 
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