best size sub for heavy metal (think 'one' by metallica)

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

wow you got mad at them for not reading what you posted...and called them on it...so when i did it it was so wrong eh

Crown amps = racist:fyi:

 

[Crown_amps]

thats fine i still think your a pedofile call me racist all you want

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

No it dealt with driver mass.


How bout you read what you post. Then decide who needs to "STFU" as you so elegantly posted.

A 10" driver is going to have less moving mass than a 15" driver. Read the artical.

So, then you agree the article is about cone mass and NOT size, So why use it in this debate when it doesn't take into account cone size or the fact that he's in a car?

Sure there are some acceptions, but don't nut in your pants evertime someone wants to get a smaller sized sub.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

If you don't get it it's fine.

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

but don't nut in your pants evertime someone wants to get a smaller sized sub.

I'm running a 10 by the way:naughty:

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

If you don't get it it's fine.

Enlighten me, since you obviously have supreme knowledge of physics and speaker design.

inductance effects transient response more than cone mass. Thats great, but its not the end-all argument concerning cone size.

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

I have 2 12's in a huge effin box... they sound great on everything from rap to rock to metal to techno to hardcore to blues to .... yeah the do everything teh g8t.... FTW... n00bzorz... waggga chagga. yourmom!

 

[jimmyjames1700 10+ year member]

Enlighten me, since you obviously have supreme knowledge of physics and speaker design. inductance effects transient response more than cone mass. Thats great, but its not the end-all argument concerning cone size.

I don't think anybody here is trying to convince anyone else that they have obtained supreme knowledge of physics and speaker design. I know I'm not atleast.

I just believe that, from everything I have read anyways, that the size or mass of a given subwoofer's cone doesn't have the effect on transient response that some believe. Heck, enclosure design will have a much greater impact overall.

Now I would love to wait untill a loudspeaker engineer chimes in and sets me straight and disproves all that I have read. Untill then, I would love to know makes you so sure that it does.

 

[jimmyjames1700 10+ year member]

So, then you agree the article is about cone mass and NOT size, So why use it in this debate when it doesn't take into account cone size or the fact that he's in a car?Sure there are some acceptions, but don't nut in your pants evertime someone wants to get a smaller sized sub.

I see increased cone size as being a positive instead of a negative. You get more low bass output potential, with reduced distortion. And all of this comes with more efficiency when compared to a similiar driver with a smaller cone. I fail to see what you think is the draw back of large size drivers when emplimented properly.

 

[eisenhower 10+ year member]

I see increased cone size as being a positive instead of a negative. You get more low bass output potential, with reduced distortion. And all of this comes with more efficiency when compared to a similiar driver with a smaller cone. I fail to see what you think is the draw back of large size drivers when emplimented properly.

negatives of large cone size - cone flex, air resistance, weight, and enclosure size. Not all people are shooting for the absolute loudest at the lowest frequency, especially people that listen to music other than rap. There are tons of exceptions, but generally I think a smaller sub would work much better in this application.

BTW I run a 15" atlas, and it sounds like *** for metal.

 

[jimmyjames1700 10+ year member]

negatives of large cone size - cone flex, air resistance, weight, and enclosure size. Not all people are shooting for the absolute loudest at the lowest frequency, especially people that listen to music other than rap. There are tons of exceptions, but generally I think a smaller sub would work much better in this application.
BTW I run a 15" atlas, and it sounds like *** for metal.

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[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

geeee.... I thought atlas...es were supposed to be great for rock. //content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/tongue.gif.6130eb82179565f6db8d26d6001dcd24.gif//content.invisioncic.com/y282845/emoticons/rolleyes.gif.c1fef805e9d1464d377451cd5bc18bfb.gif

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

this guys a tool. I gave up long ago...

 

[UndercoverPunk 5,000+ posts]

this guys a tool. I gave up long ago...

I know, I'm just bored... as you can tell I'm not putting a whole lot of effort into my posts... not that I usually do...