best size sub for heavy metal (think 'one' by metallica)

[frankiebones 10+ year member]

i have been told by some that for heavy metal with a lot of really fast kick drum notes that should stand out, the best clarity i will get is from a 10" over a 12". im not sure if this is true but im only putting a sub in, and im keeping my factory head (lease is up in a few months). its an audi s4 with the bose upgrade so its not bad but it needs bass. i wanna use a rockford p6001bd bc im getting it as good as new from my brother (he ended up using it for 3 days and getting something else with more channels and power). here are the specs for the amp:

Focused high mass cast aluminum heatsink

ultra stable into 2 ohms

Remote punch EQ nob 0 -18 db @ 45 hz

Illuminated RF logo

Stealth panel hides connections

4 AWG C clamp for power and ground

CEA 2006 compliant

300 x 1 RMS @ 4 ohms

600 x 1 RMS @ 2 ohms

351 average RMS watts x 1

653 average RMS watts x 1

12 db per octave HP/LP/AP @ 40 400 HZ

2.4" x 11" x 13.7"

can someone suggest a single sub that would do this amp and the type of music i li9sten to justice? appreciate anyone's help veryt much.

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[Raisedin305 5,000+ posts]

10" or 12" Kicker CVX...make sure it's DVC 4.

 

[jimmyjames1700 10+ year member]

10" or 12" Kicker CVX...make sure it's DVC 4.

Nope, he would want D2's. Unless you don't think that two CVX can handle 300Wrms. Since it's a mono amp that makes full power at 2 ohm mono. He would wire the coils in series to effectively make two 4 ohm speakers, and then wire the two subs in parallel to make a single 2 ohm load. Unless you don't think that two CVX can handle 300Wrms.

To the original poster, how much do you want to spend? I would recommend the 12" D2 ID overstocks that are on Ebay right now. Great subs for the money, $65 ea, and will work great off of minimal to moderate powered systems.

I am currently running a pair off of the rear channels of a Eclipse PA5422, so they are only getting about 120Wrms a peice! They sound great, the impact at that power level is pretty unreal. Low bass is just ok but, these things will keep up with the quick hard hitting bass lines of metal with ease.

 

[frankiebones 10+ year member]

Nope, he would want D2's. Unless you don't think that two CVX can handle 300Wrms. Since it's a mono amp that makes full power at 2 ohm mono. He would wire the coils in series to effectively make two 4 ohm speakers, and then wire the two subs in parallel to make a single 2 ohm load. Unless you don't think that two CVX can handle 300Wrms.
To the original poster, how much do you want to spend? I would recommend the 12" D2 ID overstocks that are on Ebay right now. Great subs for the money, $65 ea, and will work great off of minimal to moderate powered systems.

I am currently running a pair off of the rear channels of a Eclipse PA5422, so they are only getting about 120Wrms a peice! They sound great, the impact at that power level is pretty unreal. Low bass is just ok but, these things will keep up with the quick hard hitting bass lines of metal with ease.

i will spend whatever gives me the power and quick response that i am looking for (within reason). why do you suggest going with 2 subs? wouldnt it be better to spend more money and get a quality single sub (talking out of my *** keep in mind)?

 

[psych0ticnemes1 5,000+ posts]

sub size DOES NOT MATTER, the enclosure matters... a 15 in a 1.5 cube box sealed will still keep up with the beats...

 

[squeak9798 5,000+ posts]

i have been told by some that for heavy metal with a lot of really fast kick drum notes that should stand out, the best clarity i will get is from a 10" over a 12".

That's hogwash bullhonky. Any size subwoofer will work for you...8" through 18".

However, the most important thing you should do to really obtain the best performance in that "kickdrum" area is upgrade your front interior speakers. The majority of the impact, snap and punch of the kickdrum is located more in the midbass area than in the subbass region. Your midbass speakers will carry most of the impact and punch of the kickdrum, the subwoofer plays more of a "fill-in" role.

With that said....what are your present interior speakers? A great sub with inadequate midbass speakers will result in generally poor "kickdrum" performance.

 

[frankiebones 10+ year member]

That's hogwash bullhonky. Any size subwoofer will work for you...8" through 18".

However, the most important thing you should do to really obtain the best performance in that "kickdrum" area is upgrade your front interior speakers. The majority of the impact, snap and punch of the kickdrum is located more in the midbass area than in the subbass region. Your midbass speakers will carry most of the impact and punch of the kickdrum, the subwoofer plays more of a "fill-in" role.

With that said....what are your present interior speakers? A great sub with inadequate midbass speakers will result in generally poor "kickdrum" performance.

can i replace/ipgrade the front interior speakers without changing the head? its leased and its almost up

 

[tRiGgEr 5,000+ posts]

can i replace/ipgrade the front interior speakers without changing the head? its leased and its almost up

It would be a waste of effort.

To properly setup a decent front stage. You will need to amp them.

 

[LeX 10+ year member]

i'd go with a soundsplinter RL-p12 ora an RL-i 10 if you want to go a bit cheaper. Will do well. also look into ascendant audio arsenal

 

[swat2380 10+ year member]

Find a Round Kicker Solobaric 12 D series

 

[JoeHemi57 10+ year member]

the ascendant arsenals i had displayed great impact, a single 12" on that amp would be nice.

 

[dkguitarist 5,000+ posts]

a brahma if you can afford one

 

[MrSector9 10+ year member]

10 or 12" infinity perfect be nice and cheap

 

[JoeHemi57 10+ year member]

a brahma if you can afford one

no, hes running factory front stage and a brahma doesn't have much output in the upper bass frequencies which is what he needs.

 

[MrSector9 10+ year member]

no, hes running factory front stage and a brahma doesn't have much output in the upper bass frequencies which is what he needs.

oin top of none being around unless you want a used one, Adire isnt geting any more motors in until first of may i think was posted. so end of may for a brahma